Wicked Twister- next on the chopping block?

Haven't all of the Intamin Impulse coasters had additional supports installed after opening? Perhaps that was part of the design appeal? "Lets makes this look as unsafe as possible."
Ridiculous.

GigaG said:

I would say TTD would have better capacity if it wasn't down so much.

I don't know.

Maybe.

:)

I really hope Wicked Twister does NOT leave. I love the ride, especially in the back seat.

Now, since people are talking about reimagining this part of CP, I feel CP should do one further thing with that area. They need to chop out that eyesore of a stadium next to WT, and build a new Wildcat. We all miss Wildcat, don't we? With the stadium gone, that would free enough space for a new Wildcat. It would also fit in well with that area for the kids since they have their small attractions nearby.

#JustMy50Cents

There are no new Wildcats to build. Better for that area, if you think it must be a coaster, would be a family spinner of some sort.

As for Kiddie Kingdom, it's full of relics. Those umbrella rides are Hamptons, a company that has provided midway mainstays for decades. Even better, though, are the original Allan Herschell rides and the Mangels Roto-Whip. When I first visited CP in the early 60's Kiddieland was in approximately the same place and was practically a Herschell showcase. Some of those rides remain to this day, the Fighter Jets and Helicopters come to mind. Gone, sadly, are the wet boats, the A.H. Little Dipper, and the small portable carousel.
If Kiddie Kingdom needs a refresh so be it, but leave the duplicate Zamps and 4-wheelers for the other kid zones and kept the antiques right where they are.
I'll add that kid rides tend to go round and round. It's what they do and kids love to spin. In fact it's been said that spinning is a child's first introduction to the various mind altering experiences.

RCMAC said:

There are no new Wildcats to build. Better for that area, if you think it must be a coaster, would be a family spinner of some sort.

A thousand times no. There's no shortage of spinning rides in the park. Better would be a Mack Wild Mouse.

WolfBobs said:

Personally I would love to see Corkscrew removed next. . . I know the corkscrews over the midway are "iconic" but I have faith that current park management could do something just as iconic with a new, modern ride.

You mean like keeping the iconic ride that is already there?

Obligatory someone wants to remove Corkscrew for no reason thread response:

https://pointbuzz.com/Forums/Topic/rides-that-might-be-removed-in-t.../18#536949

Corkscrew might be hated, but it takes up relatively little space. I could see removal if the maintenance costs are too high, but there's other rides that can be removed that take up more space if that's the priority.

RCMAC said:

As for Kiddie Kingdom, it's full of relics. Those umbrella rides are Hamptons, a company that has provided midway mainstays for decades. Even better, though, are the original Allan Herschell rides and the Mangels Roto-Whip. When I first visited CP in the early 60's Kiddieland was in approximately the same place and was practically a Herschell showcase. Some of those rides remain to this day, the Fighter Jets and Helicopters come to mind. Gone, sadly, are the wet boats, the A.H. Little Dipper, and the small portable carousel.
If Kiddie Kingdom needs a refresh so be it, but leave the duplicate Zamps and 4-wheelers for the other kid zones and kept the antiques right where they are.
I'll add that kid rides tend to go round and round. It's what they do and kids love to spin. In fact it's been said that spinning is a child's first introduction to the various mind altering experiences.

Huh! Well, consider me educated on vintage kiddie rides. I'll admit that as much as I appreciate the significance of old and historic coasters and carousels and such, I never gave kiddie rides a second thought. Perhaps I should.

...you know, come to think, I grew up around a Hampton. Back where I used to live, we had Tuscora Park, a tiny- and I mean TINY- amusement park, kiddy stuff mostly, but its pride and joy was its carousel (perhaps where I developed my fondness for them) and full size ferris wheel. There was also a Hampton boat ride. I remember the canopy.

I love corkscrew (front seat only - the immense leg room is fantastic) but I wish the trains were more accommodating in the other seats. I'm 6'3 and my knees take a beating in Arrow looper trains. Their OTSR are .. awkward. Be it as it may there's no denying a shaky, pulsating, bumpy, jarring, and for some -ear smashing ride. The experience certainly has room for improvement. Unfortunately that's most often achieved by total replacement. 70's tech enduring through every Lake Erie winter and summer. Love it, but.... tick. Tick. Tick. Tick...

I feel CP maintenance does a good job at maintenance on corkscrew. Especially after having just ridden the Demon at SFGA this year for the first time in about 20 years, I will not be on that ever again.

Captain Hawkeye said:

WolfBobs said:

Personally I would love to see Corkscrew removed next. . . I know the corkscrews over the midway are "iconic" but I have faith that current park management could do something just as iconic with a new, modern ride.

You mean like keeping the iconic ride that is already there?

"Iconic" is a word only used by enthusiasts who are too obsessed with nostalgia. All rides have a useful lifespan, it'll be gone one day, people will complain and start an online petition to save it but in the end it'll be removed. In my opinion the ride is horrible and should go. As well as Vortex at KI but that's an opinion for a thread on other sites.

I know it's not popular to think rides should go. But the fact is eventually, every ride that is currently at the park will be replaced with something new and modern. That includes Gatekeeper, Valravn, MF, etc.. one day they will be gone too.

I doubt that Corkscrew will be going anywhere anytime soon. It is a bicentennial coaster with a minimal footprint. Most days in the summer, it had a solid 15 min wait and I saw it hit an hour at a few points over the summer. Most Saturdays, It had a solid 45 minute wait. It is pretty reliable- if not the most reliable coaster in the park. I I can't tell you how many times kids would come up to me and say that it was their first "upside down coaster" or first coaster entirely. If anything, I could see the park giving it some TLC with possibly a controls overhaul like Magnum and perhaps some new, more comfortable Vekoma trains- not that the ride itself will ever be comfortable.

A pair of Vekoma trains and a lighting package would really help the ride out.

GDUBS said:

I doubt that Corkscrew will be going anywhere anytime soon. It is a bicentennial coaster with a minimal footprint. Most days in the summer, it had a solid 15 min wait and I saw it hit an hour at a few points over the summer. Most Saturdays, It had a solid 45 minute wait.

Having a line doesn't mean it's popular.

Often times GateKeeper has little or no line, while Maverick always has a line. And while GateKeeper was the most popular ride in the park by a comfortable margin, Maverick didn't even crack the top 5.

Just because a ride is the most ridden does not necessarily make it the most popular. Unless, of course, you define most popular as most ridden. But I digress.

Corkscrew does have a low cost per rider going for it, and the ride does have decent capacity. (When it ran three trains, it had insane capacity. But due to the redundant harness belt, reduced staffing, and the Arrow dance being seen as dangerous, we will never see the third train again. Of course, an automated harness release would remove the need for the Arrow dance, but it may not be feasible without replacing the rolling stock.)

If I was a betting man, I would place my money on Corkscrew being around until the track wears out due to metal fatigue. And considering three of the four original arrow looping coasters that opened in 1975 are still in operation, Corkscrew's track probably has a bit of life in it yet.

jscll said:

Just because a ride is the most ridden does not necessarily make it the most popular. Unless, of course, you define most popular as most ridden. But I digress.

How else would you define most popular? To me "most ridden" is synonymous with "most popular".

Then wouldn't that make the train the most popular ride most years ?

Given that the train was dethroned and bumped to #7 on the list, I'd say no.

Perhaps if Maverick had less down time and greater PPH capacity it would be #1.. it can only put out to its capabilities.