What Would You (Realistically) Like To See @ Cedar Point in the Future

I've often wondered how many people go in there seeking AC, only to realize after a bit that, no, it's not cooler in there, then stay in line anyway. Tony, can you get us a stat on that ASAP? ;)


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I know one thing for sure. After you have been inside the queue and then get off the ride and then exit, the sun blinds you at first. Does this happen to anyone else after riding Disaster Transport?

What about taking out CCMR and putting a modern woodie there? CCMR takes up a pretty good amount of space.

CodyR said:
What about taking out CCMR and putting a modern woodie there? CCMR takes up a pretty good amount of space.

I don't think taking out what is considered by many to be a landmark at CP is a good idea. CCMR has been there for 40 years. Not to mention the fact that it's probably one of the best family rides in the park.

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Family ride???

I woulden't call a ride that you have to be 48" tall to ride, a family ride.


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I would considering the fact that no matter how old you are you can enjoy the ride. It's a ride that not many are scared of and a whole family could ride together.

Just because you have to be 48" tall to ride it should not keep it from being a family ride.

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I look at it differantly.

I consider a family ride, something that mom,dad AND jr can ride together. A 48' height rule does not help jr out.

I guess Disney would be a great example for "family rides". Look at big thunder mountain. It has a 42' height requirement on it. Much bigger and faster the the mine ride at cedarpoint, yet the whole family can ride.

I don't know why, but all cedarfair parks have higher height restrictions than any other park chain. Take six flags over atlanta for example. My daughter is 43' tall, and she can ride the mine ride, the mind bender(looping coaster), the great american scream machine(large wooden coaster), and they have another small coaster that I can not remember the name of at this time.

At cedar point, she can only get on jr gemini and woodstock express. I don't understand why she cant get on iron dragon, disaster transport, mine ride, wildcat, or even blue streak. Very tame coasters. She loves coasters, and gets bummed out everytime we go to cedar point and she can't get on the coasters. This is why we go to six flags parks more.


what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard.
Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it.
I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

I guess we just define it a different way. I consider it a family ride if the whole family can enjoy it one everyone is tall enough.

I wouldn't consider a looping coaster a family ride at any point. This is just because even though jr. may love them mom or dad may not and therefore the whole family may not get on.

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While I agree that CCMR is not a very efficient use of land, I think we often lose sight of the fact that you have to start somewhere, and I think it is a very good transition coaster from the exclusively child-oriented coasters. In fact, for kids (or even adults) who are afraid of drops, as I once was, it's a good ride to go on instead of Blue Streak, Wildcat, or even Iron Dragon.

I think the height requirement on it could be lower, but then again, it's not as if every kid who reaches 48" immediately wants to jump on Magnum.


The path you tread is narrow, and the drop is sheer and very high.

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^^^ I think the height requirement is 48" because of the lap bar used. I think someone who is taller than 48" can unbuckle their seatbelt and possibly get out of the ride by climbing over the bar. I think all of Arrow's suspended coasters are 46" tall. I thought Great American Scream Machine is 48" but I might be wrong.


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Nope. It's 42'

Look here...

http://www.sixflags.com/overGeorgia/rides/AllRides.aspx


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I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

I would love to see another wild mouse, or a spinning mouse at CP in the future. It would fit perfectly in the former Demon Drop space, and still leave a bit of room for some sort of concessions in the area.


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^^ My bad!


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crazy horse said:
I don't understand why she cant get on iron dragon, disaster transport, mine ride, wildcat, or even blue streak. Very tame coasters.

I would not consider Blue Streak a tame coaster. The ride has a lot of air time and the 48" requirement is spot on in my opinion.

As for CCMR, when the ride first opened it did not have a minimum height requirement. There was a sign the said "No Hand Held Infants Please", but other than that, anyone could ride. No clue why CP changed that, but they know the rider better than we do so it must be for a good reason.

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than in the drink with a boat on the rocks.

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djDaemon said:
For my money, they'd be better off removing it and putting in a GG/GCI and a dark ride (to placate the OMG but the air conditioning!!! crowd). The combo of those would more than make up for DT's loss, in my opinion.

A very good idea. If the dark ride is built along the beach, the building could house the dark ride and entrance on the midway side. Plus the beach side could be opened up with the much talked about boardwalk, and the beach side of the dark ride building could incorporate typical boardwalk style shops and food stands.


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than in the drink with a boat on the rocks.

A water coaster similar to Kalahari, but on a much larger, provocative and daring scale would be amazing to see at Soak City.

I agree that the water park is in desperate need of a drastic makeover. Theming it expressly 'to' the Great Lakes (Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald??) and adding a nice balance of outdoor day spa 'and' thrill would be perfect. While I want to see more advanced technology utilized in the water elements and ride experience, a 'hidden resort' feel should be emphasized in the landscaping and design for the older crowd. A lil' from Column A, and a lil' from Column B.

Also, enough of the coasters already. Been there, done that.

Themed dark rides with elements of 3-D special effects, as well as the extra environmental touches (i.e. mist, rain, smell, etc. a la Disney) would be great! Think Universal's "Mummy", as well as "Shrek 3-D".

I also like the idea of an indoor live stage show that utilizes environmental effects and unusual elements/audience interaction very similar to Disney's "Tough to be a Bug" at Animal Kingdom, as well as "Muppets 4-D!" and "Voyage of the Little Mermaid".

An overall land revision/ride placement which places emphasis on a 360 view of Lake Erie should be considered in all future design elements, landscaping and architecture. In the current layout, there is a disgusting overabundance of concrete and mass structure and an appalling disregard for the initial property of greenspace.

Cedar Creek Mine Ride's height restriction beats me. Here's a listing of every operating Arrow mine train coaster and its respective height restriction:

Adventure Express @ Kings Island - 44"
Carolina Goldrusher @ Carowinds - 48"
Cedar Creek Mine Ride @ Cedar Point - 48"

Dahlonega Mine Train @ Six Flags Over Georgia - 42"
Goldrusher @ Six Flags Magic Mountain - 48"
Mine Train @ Six Flags Over Texas - 42"
River King Mine Train @ Six Flags St. Louis - 42"
Roadrunner Express @ Six Flags Fiesta Texas - 42"
Runaway Mine Train @ Six Flags Great Adventure - 44"

El Diablo @ Port Aventura - 1.4m according to their website... 55" (really????)
Thunderation @ Silver Dollar City - 42"
Trailblazer @ Hersheypark - 42"
Yagiyama Cyclone @ Benyland - 110cm... about 44"
Big Bad John @ Magic Springs - 42"
Canyon Blaster @ Great Escape - 42"

So basically there is only one 48-inch Arrow mine train outside of Cedar Fair parks, not counting El Diablo, which I’m convinced that their website is wrong. Seems to me that Cedar Creek Mine Ride is a missed opportunity when it comes to being a family-friendly coaster like all the 42” or 44” Arrow mine trains…

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Ryan Mahaffey said:A water coaster similar to Kalahari, but on a much larger, provocative and daring scale would be amazing to see at Soak City.

Good Lord, NO! If you though Dragster had lots of downtime, you should see Kalahari's. A Master Blaster would be a much better model to get.


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Is the Master Blaster what Holiday World is installing for this season?


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Sort of. Master Blaster is made by Whitewater West and uses water jets to propel its rafts up the hills. Whitewater is also the makers of the Zip Coaster (which is what Kalahari has) and it uses fast moving conveyor belts. Wildebeest will use LIM's to launch its rafts up the hills, so it is similar to the two from Whitewater. I can't remember the manufactures name for it but Proslide is making these to compete with Master Blasters.

I should also point out that Aqua Leisure International has a design about the same as the Master Blaster and they even call it Master Blaster.

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