What Would You (Realistically) Like To See @ Cedar Point in the Future

Ok, here's a few of my logical ideas that I've always been thinking about for the future of CP.

1. GCI. From what it seems, when CF starts building new coasters, especially with companies they never worked with before, they'll put them in their mid sized parks and seeing how the reaction was before they ever would take a chance with their prime park (CP). Think Xcellerator > TTD or Renegade and Prowler > something in the future. CF lost confidence with wood coasters but gave GCI a chance with Renegade and now look what happens, there came Prowler.

2. B&M Flyer. I felt this is a very unique attraction that would fit in their coaster collection, has high capacity, reliable, and a unique experience at the park.

3. Locations. I would of like see a GCI twister of B&M flyer in frontier town flying all around the place, but that idea kind of got ruined by the space Shoot The Rapids recently took over. Another idea would be to tear down Mean Streak and use the land their. Amother location is the beachfront. Could Disaster Transport eventually be torn down? They got rid of Demon Drop for not really of a reason which could free up space for the location of a new coaster station? If they got rid of DT that would free up land for say a GCI or B&M flyer, which would enable it to run throught the sand of the beaches for some kind of boardwalk thing that has always been talked about.

Those are my educated guesses of the future of CP!

Whoever mentioned Gravity Group, I'm a huge fan of getting one of their coasters. They know what they're doing. All they have to do is convince CP to take a chance on them. However, when you compare GG and GCI, you have to be impartial. Intamin, if anything, is overpriced. GCI is the mid-range, and GG is the low-ball price. However, you get what you pay for.

I have a preference toward GCI because I see what they can do, their trains (Millennium Flyers) are amazing and completely smooth out a woodie. From the looks of their website and other coaster that they have built, I think they fit perfectly with CP's idea of innovation and great coasters. The quality looks fantastic, however the capacity from GCI is not very high, due to the fact trhat they don't have a MCBR. Unless GCI adds a MCBR, I'm not sure we'll be able to see one of these at CP.

GG woodies are known for being rough, however I'm nowhere near opposed to them. Hades, while rough, is a great coaster that really makes use of a small amount of space. I'm all for a GG, but I'm not sure it'd be the best option for CP, as guests already complain about Mean Streak, which really isn't that bad in terms of roughness. Seeing as GG is a fairly new coaster company, I'm not sure that CP is willing to take a chance on them.

Intamin woodies are great. The fact they all CP would have to do is build the super structure is a plus for them, and the fact that it is basically a "plug-n-play" model, in which CP could install the entire coaster in a matter of about 2-2.5 months. I've also heard that these coasters a super smooth and have a lot of airtime. They are innovative, and intense, and that may be exactly what they are looking for, if they're willing to pay the price. Capactiy is really good too.

I know this is kind of long, so those of you who read the whole thing, thanks.

I had an idea for Cedar Point. Maybe they could just keep Mean Streak, but add Millennium Flyer trains like Holiday World did for this year. I mean the Voyage was already smooth, but the new trains they are adding is going to make it smoother. I'm still for the idea of a new wooden coaster along the beach front like everyone is talking about, but maybe they could do both in one season. Ride Warrior, I like your idea of the Intamin wooden coaster that you added in your last paragraph. Maybe they could remake the classic cyclone for Cedar Point in the future. :)

The trains going on Voyage this year are called Timberliners. :)

^^Yea, perhaps we could see Timberliners or Flyers on Mean Streak. I think that'd be a great investment. Maybge if we get Flyers, GCI can do the re-tracking.

Maybe Intamin can do the new coaster, and GCI can re-do MS?

I do not think a re-do would be enough for MS. A complete overhaul/demolition would suffice.

RideWarrior18 said: GG is a fairly new coaster company, I'm not sure that CP is willing to take a chance on them

First, Gravity Group coasters are not known for being rough. Have you ever been on Voyage? Also, Gravity Group technically is not new. While the name is, all the designers go back to the early `90's with CCI, I think before GCI. So they have been around awhile building coasters and now that they have the new Timberliners (which I prefer over Millennium Flyers), it is really how much you want to spend that might be the decision on which company to go for. :)

^I apologize. Somehow I forgot about Voyage. When I said new, I meant that they hadn't made many rides. I haven't been on the Voyage, but I really want to now that the Timberliners have arrived. Money is always the concern, no matter what. :)

Aside from El Toro, Voyage is the smoothest wooden coaster I have been on and that obviously was with the old PTC trains. After seeing the Timberliners I have no doubt now that it will be smoother than any GCI I have been on. While GG might have not made many coasters under their name, I still count all that they made with CCI too. That puts them more than double what GCI has made.

Come to think of it, you guys are right. I think if a coaster that was similar to Voyage was put where Mean Streak is now, that would revamp that area of Cedar Point even more! Maybe what Cedar Point could do is keep Mean Streak's first hill, but re-do the layout in GCI or GG form. Tell me what you think? This is just me talking, but I think they can make Mean Streak a good ride again if GCI or GG come into play.

I've already dreamed that coaster, Shawn. It was so fun and so long, it needed two lifts. :)

AND why not throw in that launch that the Timberliner trains (since no dreams about a wooden coaster is complete without a TL) can handle? :)

I don't care how many launch coasters CP has or how untested the technology for the concept is, I WANT to see them build the 1st launched wooden coaster!! :)

^Ditto. I think a launched woodie would be amazing. Probably a butt load of money, but amazing. :)

Sounds like technology Intamin should be able to come up with. They're already masters of the launch. All they need to do is figure out how to make it compatible with their pre-fab woodie design, so why not? This might not be as crazy an idea as one would think.

It's amazing how everyone wants a launched wooden coaster (including me) after the failure that TTD was in the first few years. As much as I would love to see the technology come to light, as I don't think it is that big of a leap, I really don't know if I trust Intamin to do it well. This is coming from a kid who basically loves everything Intamin does.

I think calling it a failure is a bit harsh since the technology DOES fundamentally work. Of course it has had it's down side, but any kind of complex mechanism like the hydraulic launch system is going to breakdown or be a fussy deal. What made it so difficult the first few years was that the technology was still new and they (CP) were the ones who decided to take the technology to a much higher level before it had a chance to grow and become a bit more reliable. Though they have more than proved they can get it working great and keep it working great.

If anything, LSM's are becoming a much more reliable system. So if there were to ever be a launched wooden coaster, my bet is it will utilize LSM's. Of course, being brought to a new kind of coaster like wood will have a whole new slew of problems that wont be known until someone decides to be the first to try it. It's just a matter of time now.

Adam,

I can't disagree with anything you have said. I guess saying failure was a bit to harsh, but considering what we were promised compared to what came out, combined with all the extra work that was put into TTD after it was opened, I considered it a failure for at least the first year.

My whole point is that bringing the technology to the wood side of things like you said would create a whole slew of new problems. I just don't want them to rush it and have problems like they did with TTD. Of course I do love it when CP is the first to integrate new forms of technology so we can be the first to taste it.

Ryan

Exactly, it'd be nice to see the technology (dare I say) perfected before an appearance at CP. But someone has to be the first to make one and CP tends to do a lot of "firsts".;)

Ok, I'm going to stick to roller coasters, as that's why I go to CP.

1. Agree with everyone that CP is lacking a great modern woodie. I want to see the world's best, beating El Toro in ride satisfaction. I haven't ridden any of the greats like The Voyage or El Toro, but from what I've seen in reviews, Intamin pre-fab is the way to go. I think the biggest concern though is: What wooden coasters are holding up the best with time in seasonal areas....GG's, GCI's, or Intamin's? Let's not forget when Mean Streak opened, it was an infinitely better experience than today...

2. Time for a new roller coaster experience...enough of the traditional sit-down style at CP. I think a flyer of some sort is the way to go, but I haven't seen any make "the best" lists? I'll be happy with any new experience on those lists.

Also, I've seen it here many times that TTD was a failed investment...I don't agree at all. Maybe a short-term failure, but long term, it's still in the top steel coaster lists, it's still gathering attention for CP, and it's now running very well. A failure to me is Son of Beast...

I would love to see a slight revamp on Mean Streak. I would like to see the first turn taken out to allow room for a bigger lift hill. There is so much room in the middle of the ride so i would make a Ravine Flyer 2 type drop and have some action in the huge space in the middle of the ride. Get some re-tracking going on and get some Timberliner trains to go along with the new ride.