Water Main Break

Honestly with CP closed all the tourists had to go find stuff to do, I've never seen Dirty Dees packed like the way it was for lunch yesterday, and that's fantastic IMO. Yeah it was a bit of a disappointment to not get to enjoy the park for three days, but man I bet local businesses flourished, which I will always be happy to see some of my favorite places get the love they deserve.

Only complaint, that traffic though lol, with everyone and their brother off point, it def. got congested quick.

Oh no, we're up to 3 people who think alike! It's spreading! Seriously though stew, that's a huge stretch and just as unrealistic as some of these "ideas" floating around.

So, I'll take that half jug of Uncle Jessie's finest Thank you very much. :)

Gotta give it up to CP marketing spinning this weekends mess into the "just add water" campaign... gotta love it....nice way to spin a disaster into a pretty funny and clever marketing idea...

How dare something positive come out of this! Don't they understand people need something to whine about?

Staaber said:
Gotta give it up to CP marketing spinning this weekends mess into the "just add water" campaign... gotta love it....nice way to spin a disaster into a pretty funny and clever marketing idea...

+1

Is that a smile I see on your face PointGuru? Are you complimenting Cedar Point? QUICK, SOMEONE CALL IN THE NATIONAL GUARD!

Yes, how dare Cedar Point attempt to make something positive out of something that was largely out of their control and that people will probably forget about by the end of the month. Why, they should've stayed closed for an entire extra week just to be sure!

Super Stew said:
The ever present and proverbial "CP can do NOTHING wrong" mentality is ALIVE and very well represented on this site ! Has been for years.

Maybe you're not reading every topic, but that couldn't be further from the truth. Check out the Iron Dragon Height thread for one recent example.

My guess is not very many.

My guess is more than you think. Certainly plenty of other criticism throughout these pages. Not sure why this would be any different.

And I see SteveH continues to be oblivious to the irony that he's no different than the theoretical fanboy he imagines is everyone but himself.

No need for Nat'l Guard..CP is preparing to stand up the Cedar Point Coast Guard. He can set sail on the SS Green Train ^^_

If I may chime in. I was a guest who was affected by the water main break. It especially stung for me because I got over major colon surgery. I had a month long "resort stay" at "hotel" Cleveland Clinic. I was finally able to do something I dreamed about in the hospital: go to Cedar Point. It really put a downer on my day.

However, I feel Cedar Point made the right call. We (my girlfriend and I) also made lemonade out of the situation. We did other outdoor activities.

Cedar Point is infamous for being overly safety conscious. I don't blame them. A school of 600 kids is one thing. 30,000 guests (many with an entitlement complex) crammed into a small area is another.

For me, the real debate is what does Sandusky (and possibly Cedar Point) do about preventing this from happening again? How much should Sandusky spend to update the infrastructure? Is that something that would be passed onto Sandusky water customers?

I live in Lakewood, which gets it water from Cleveland. I don't know how much Cleveland water customers are willing to absorb higher costs due to infrastructure upgrades. High water bills is a common complaint.

Cedar Point is a customer of the Sandusky water department, Sandusky owes it's customers reliable water delivery. So yes, Sandusky needs to update infrastructure, possibly passing some of the cost to customers.

Cedar Point is unique in that a large area and a vast number of persons are affected by a single point of failure. That would be almost like a water main break under Euclid Ave in Cleveland causes loss of service to the entire east side. That of course won't happen in Cleveland because other mains pick up the distribution. Cedar Point has no such luxury with the single main. Ideally they should build a new main and keep the old one intact. They would have to find a way to create a loop or somehow run both in parallel, something I'm sure isn't too tough of a challenge for a qualified engineer. This would ensure that future breaks won't shut down the park.

WOW! Looking at the webcams, this is going to be a busy day at the park. Mondays are usually slow from what I can remember, but the parking lot is packed already!

I wonder how much Cedar Point's water bill is? Cedar Point should have enough sway to push to request a second line. Yes they are single customer but they are equivalent to a small city on a busy Saturday.

I just wonder if it's easy for me to say that since I don't live in Sandusky. However, if this has happened before it's only a mater of time until it happens again. Just hope it doesn't happen on their camp out. I'm pretty excited for that.

Part of the issue too with the main I'm sure is unearthing it and then obviously replacement. That's alot of roadway to rip up for the main. Plus I think Walt or an article said it, but it has happened before, but usually during the winter with the freezing temps and is generally unaffected due to the small amount of people up there.

Pete makes an excellent point. I'm sure the new person in park operations who will be in charge of disaster recovery will make a recommendation to add a 2nd main. The question is will the park approve the cost. As I am sure most people know, any new infrastructure to the water system is paid for by the consumer. Example - If a new housing development is built on previously undeveloped land, the builder is responsible for the cost of the new sewer and water lines and those cost are passed onto the buyer in the cost of the home. Owners of existing homes who previously used well water and septic systems have been forced to switch over to municipal services are forced to pay for the new lines and / or tax liens are placed on their properties. It will be interesting to see if the park chooses to pay for a 2nd main to prevent this from happening again.

thedevariouseffect said:
Plus I think Walt or an article said it, but it has happened before

The Sandusky city engineer said the water main was installed in 1959. This is the fourth break since 2003, but the first while the park was open.

I'd be surprised if a second main is put in. The one main works, it's unfortunate when it breaks. But to replace a pipe from wherever it starts all the way down the Chausee or Causeway, whichever route it takes, all the way up the point to where it needs to go. That's alot of work. Yes they have the off season to do it, but all the concrete that needs redone, the main work itself, etc. Once the new one is in, then to take it out, and repave everything, etc. Bet that's a pretty bill.

Freezing temps have nothing to due with water main failures as long as it's buried at at least the minimum depth required by the county or state code.

To the people whining about the parks decision to close: They likely didn't have any choice in the matter. Health and fire codes could have not been met in many situations. The one that really jumps out at me are the older fire suppression systems that utilize water (Breakers is a great example). They would have had to close every food service location that cooks food as well for health reason alone. Another big reason for the evacuation was likely the possibility of excavating on the causeway. I'm not sure where the water main is located or the depth, but the possibility of having to completely shut down the causeway or at least 3 lanes of it was there. Cedar Point did what they HAD to do, not what they wanted to do.

I wonder which webcams Campfreak06 is looking at to see a full parking lot. Lots of cars but the parking lot is no where near full. The midways aren't even crowded.

In case anyone was questioning about Hotel Breakers refunds.

I just was called back by Melissa, property manager for Breakers, they are refunding Friday Night Stays as well as any tickets purchased for that weekend.