Yea to what Matt said.
I do remember the park closing at 10:00 pm each night in the Summer. It gave us a chance to enjoy the park at night. It is special at night. We never left before closing. Now, even in Summer, the park closes at queer times when the sun is still out. This rips off the guests. They pay the same as they would but get shorter park hours. The park wants to squeeze as many guests into as little hours as possible. Riding the Western Cruise, the train, the Space Spiral and the sky rides at night was very cool. The hours are now based on school days. This used to be a great place to come. Now it is a race to see if you can ride a few rides before closing.
In 2000, per CPFoodBlog, the single day admission price was $38. Adjusted for inflation that ticket would cost $72 today. And yet one can get into the park on a Friday in May when they close at 10PM for a mere $50, which is a 30% reduction in the gate price.
CoasterHawk:
This rips off the guests.
This is just an outrageous take. No one is being "ripped off" unless the park advertised one thing and intentionally delivered something substantially different. And considering their hours and prices are posted well in advance of anyone purchasing tickets, they are delivering exactly what they advertised.
And if you voluntarily continue to take part in transactions after feeling "ripped off" you have no one to blame but yourself. Don't like a product? Don't buy that product.
They pay the same as they would but get shorter park hours.
Another way to look at it would be that, in the earlier part of the season, guests pay the same but generally encounter a park that is substantially less busy compared to the busiest days of the season, which therefore provides more value in terms of attraction availability per dollar.
Brandon
CoasterHawk:
Now Brandon, I never said anything about prices. You extrapolated my comments from hours of operation to cost of tickets. I meant that the guests available time for night riding and pretty lights is less now than in the past.
I was thinking this recently. I’d love for it to stay open until 11-12 am. I am a night person but I don’t do well with the haunts and stuff (sensory issues). As fun as the one at Carowinds was it was just too much for me
CoasterHawk:
Now Brandon, I never said anything about prices.
Yes, you did:
This rips off the guests. They pay the same as they would but get shorter park hours.
And aside from the literal mention of what guests pay to get in, your overall complaint, as I understand it, was about value, specifically that guests earlier in the season, when the park closes at 8PM, pay the same as guests who visit a bit later when the same ticket price nets a 10PM closing time.
But mostly my comment was in response to the allegation that customers are somehow getting "ripped off" when they voluntarily engage in a transaction whose parameters are well established prior to the transaction, and aren't altered after the transaction.
Brandon
I know I can probably find this by looking, but either it's been a long time or something else, because I don't recall the park being open until 10PM until summer. Or at least after Memorial Day perhaps? Am I missing something here?
And by summer I meant mid-June.
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I may be wrong, but I thought that, until recently, the park was open during the week until 8pm (never closed on Tuesdays & Wednesdays) and 10pm on Fridays & Saturdays. Then starting in mid-June open everyday until 10pm. There were a couple of years when the park was open until 11pm but I'm not sure when that was.
Certainly the park's hours have been trimmed back since 10-15 years ago, but at the end of the day the park is a business. There is a reason they have shorter operating days during the week just like there is a reason they don't open until May. It doesn't make great business sense to keep staff the park when the expected crowds dip below a certain threshold.
With that said, it could be interesting if we saw theme parks operate like restaurants, where attractions closed on a staggered basis. For instance, if lesser-demand attractions (kids areas, family attractions, etc) closed at 9 pm, but they maintained a much smaller staff just to keep a few premiere attractions open for the final hour or two.
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If a restaurant is open latter, its selling food (ie, making money). If Cedar Point stays open a hour or two extra (whether the full park or just a few premiere attractions), a lot of people who are there will be spending $0 more than had the park closed an hour or two earlier. Question is whether the additional revenue being open that hour or two longer exceeds the additional expense of paying employees to be there. So to me, the restaurant situation is different.
Plague on Wheels:
just don't close off the drink carts or bathrooms too early.
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Dvo:
keep a few premiere attractions open for the final hour or two.
If CP was open late on May 11 it would be difficult to make it to the concert in Cleveland you & the band were headlining.
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