how many years will it be until CP builds something worth riding..?

For those that complain about whining, there would be less if we got nothing for next year than what they actually announced. If you aren't willing to pay for an upcharge, what we get for next year is one classic ride disappearing.

Cedar Creek Mine Ride said:
For those that complain about whining, there would be less if we got nothing for next year than what they actually announced. If you aren't willing to pay for an upcharge, what we get for next year is one classic ride disappearing.

How many times next year did you plan on doing PWE?

I don't recall ever visiting the park and not riding on the Paddlewheel. Just as I don't recall ever missing the train or Cedar Downs for that matter. (Another ride that doesn't typically have a "line"...due to capacity...but is certainly something I would regret seeing removed.)

If cedar point was to get a new coaster for 2013,do you guys think that it would go over by turnpike cars?

I would be more than thrilled with just the addition to SC. Use that million for upgrades to the park/resorts.

New for next year, add unlimited Dinosaurs Alive to your season pass for only one arm and half a leg...thats right, we only want from your knee down!

Most of the comments on this site reflect how spoiled people have become about the addition of the big shiny new rides. In case some of you forgot, the economy has been in the toilet for the last few years. Did it ever occur to you that corporations around the globe are being careful about future investments and additions? Am I not really crazy about this Dinosaurs idea, but is it going to stop me from visiting the park? No. A park with 17 roller coasters is pretty impressive, and some of you make it out to be that the park owes you #18. It's quite ridiculous, they're are other successful parks that have gone on for a while with less than 10 coasters. The trend of adding a new major ride every couple of years is a long distant memory.

Kyle, did you miss the announcement of the $30 million they are spending on a coaster at Canada's Wonderland only a couple years removed from them building a somewhat similar one at the same park?

I think you should read the threads more carefully. While there are some typical "I can't believe it isn't a coaster" posts I'd say that is not the overwhelming complaint with today's announcement.

So this is what they are going to do with Dick K. When he retires? Put him on display with the other dinosaurs!
Let's hope Dinos Alive goes extinct before all of the animatronics break!

Walt, I agree with you on the point of this attraction only lasting for a couple of years but wouldn't you want to take that $1 million dollars and spend it on fixing the lights on the rides? Or for that matter fix the bathrooms that become slipping slides during the day? Now I bet your bottom dollar CP will raise ticket prices next year just to thumb there noses at everyone. Yes, the economy is in the crapper, CF knows this and is probably why they are spending $30 mil on another ride in another country, is this price tag in Canadian dollars?

SSL has a point, how long until Cedar Point actually gets outside the box and builds an attraction the Thrill Seekers and family riders will like?

In my personal opinion, I go to Cedar Point to ride the big rides not to ride carnival rides. Which goes back to my point why families shell out $40 a ticket just to ride kiddie rides when most can do this at county fairs and such?

Cedar Point is known for the great thrill rides, not the family rides. Its also quite noticeable that the thrill rides always have linger lines.

With all do respect walt, where did you come up with this idea that families go to CP for the family rides? There aren't any 1.5+ hour waits for the carousel, rub a dub tubs, STR, or anything other than the big rides. So I think it is pretty safe to say that more people go to cedar point for the thrill rides rather than the family rides.

I'm nit saying that they don't need to put in family attractions, but every new thing that has come to Cedar Point since Maverick has been a family ride. I think Windseeker was supposed to be a thrill ride, but it seems like more of a family ride to me.

I bet that Cedar Point will lose some of their thrill seeking guests due to their lack of adding any sort of thrill ride.

I'm also not saying that Cedar Point should get a new thrill ride every year. From seeing how things work in the past, it seems like a roller coaster can keep people occupied for about 4-5 years. After that, its time for a new one.

But these past few years have been ridiculous with the amount of things they have gotten.

Chief Wahoo said:
Kyle, did you miss the announcement of the $30 million they are spending on a coaster at Canada's Wonderland only a couple years removed from them building a somewhat similar one at the same park?

I don't think you can compare the investment at CWL to CP to invalidate his comments about economic reasons.

For one, the economy is in much better shape in Canada than it is in the US.

Secondly, CWL has greater potential for park visitors just because of the major population centre around it and the lack of competing parks close by.
Doesn't that area have 6+ million people within an hour of the park?
Visits are more enticing too since it's close so lower fuels costs, so I think CF might feel it has a greater chance of ROI.

I think that the experience endured after installing Dragster made the "risk-taking" pendulum shift dramatically towards "take no risk" in terms of installations. Before Dragster, Cedar Point consistently pushed the envelope with nearly every attraction. After Dragster, no installation has been "dramatic", even Maverick in my opinion.

Chief Wahoo said:
For me it is like watching the Miami Dolphins fail every year in their draft selections and Quarterback traces. You think the bleeding is going to have to stop sooner or later.

As a fellow Dolphins fan, +1 :)

Kevinj said:

after Dragster, no installation has been "dramatic", even Maverick in my opinion.

Really? I 100% don't think it was a "risk taker" but it definitely showed some out of the box thinking.

^ How can you say Maverick wasn't a risk taker? The ride is nothing like it was designed and advertised to do. They tried something and it didn't work, which means it was a risk or just bad planning.

I just dont think that there were a lot of risks involved. I don't think the heartline roll was a risk, I think it was just poor designing. They had no idea that it was going to be a problem until they started testing it.

Maverick was most definitively a risk. It was the first roller coaster in the park since 1989 not to have a record attached to it at the time of opening. Everyone was doubting Maverick as an unsuccessful roller coaster because it didn't have a "____est" record. It is now probably one of the most popular rides in the park and many patrons favorite roller coasters at the park. It was a risk and it certainly paid off.

Cedar Creek Mine Ride said:
For those that complain about whining, there would be less if we got nothing for next year than what they actually announced. If you aren't willing to pay for an upcharge, what we get for next year is one classic ride disappearing.

I'll probably only be able to make it once or twice next year and unless it was Halloweekends, I would have ridden it. Our family will not be paying extra to visit disausours. We have been visiting every year for a long time (at least 1 trip, multiple trips when we can manage it), but we have been talking more recently about trying out another park instead (Holiday World being high on the list).

I mean in terms of technology, etc. Consider Dragster. Nothing was ever tried on that scale before. Same with Magnum, MF, Raptor, and so on...everything was always taller, faster, steeper....and with Dragster I would say this technological risk-taking hit its climax.

Maverick was certainly a risk in some sense for Cedar Point specifically, but it didn't push any envelopes in the coaster world IMO. That's what I was referring to. Different? Yes. Creative? Yes. Overall, a safer move than building the tallest, fastest, etc...and it worked wonderfully.

^ Completely agree with you.