TTD Status: Day to Day

Well, we are through 18 days of a 146 day season. We have gone through 12% of the season.

And Gomez, May isn't over yet. ;)

Jugga, when I rode TTD opening weekend they were doing the spiel from a wireless.

Really? I thought the reports I heard were that MF and TTD were being done from the booth, and ID and CS were auto, the rest all on wireless. Guess I was wrong.

TTD rideops have a wireless mic.

yeah, MF is in the booth and TTD is wireless.

I don't think a wireless on MF is very feasible due to the size of the platform. Not really a place ride-ops should be walking around doing spiels.

Okay, since I've apparently angered the natives, let me explain.

Carpy said:

How come because some people stay positive about the park they have to be ridiculed and then classified in some ridiculous "class" and call them a "fanboy". Isn't that kind of like, when you play a game, being called a "newbie"?

Before the season, people were very optimistic about TTD having a great year. While I may have made one or two comments regarding my opinion, I was never bashing anyone's opinion - I simply disagreed. Now, we're barely 1/8 of the way through the season, and people are already proclaiming themselves as the second coming because they predicted a great year for TTD. Huh?!? We're nowhere near the end of the season, and we've still got the heavy part of the season to contend with! Optimism is one thing, but comments about the great "year" its having only 2.5 weeks into a 10.5 week season, is not optimism - its something completely different. So, yeah, I did use the term "fanboy", because that's the most appropriate description in my eyes.

Gomez said:

I have yet to say the ride is reliable, but this is the first May to pass with ZERO downtime. (extended downtime to clarify) It is still early, but it has started this season very well.

It has started the season better than its average performance, but that is still a far cry from "very well", by any measure. Like I mentioned, we were in the park for about 14 hours over 2 days this past weekend, and it was down around a dozen times, each for around 20-30 minutes. That's 4-6 hours of the 14 I was there, or around 36% of the time. Would your boss pay you if you only showed up to work 3 days out of a 5-day workweek?

Gomez said:

I bet Kinzel isn't so dissapointed now.

What?!? So, Kinzel has been disappointed with the 3 years of operation before 2006, but 18 days into its 4th, and his opinion is completely changed? This is the type of comment that bothers me.

TTD 120mph said:

I will be saying "I told you so" regarding long term downtime not the stupid little 30 minute downtime that everyone seems to bitch about or blow out of proportion. If you dont like the ride then dont go on it and dont complain about a wait that you werent even apart of.

Actually, as I have mentioned multiple times now, I was, in fact, part of the wait time. And I have never said that I don't like the ride. Never. In fact, I took no issue with the actual downtime itself, but instead with the outlandish comments regarding how "incredibly well" its performing so far.

And why is it that before the season the definition of TTD doing well was different than it is now? All of a sudden, several periodic instances of downtime is considered insignificant? Tell that to the folks who only get to spend one day in the park this summer. The extra half-hour they stand there takes away from their time to do other things. And while a half hour doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, its anything but insignificant.

So, listen - I am a fan of the ride. But proclaiming "I told you so" and "TTD is running like awesomesauce!!11!!1!!1!" is pretty ridiculous. I was not out of line with my "fanboy" comment, and I stand by it. Its not necessarily an insult, though - just an observation. And, no, I don't want the ride to breakdown. I, in fact, want it to have a great season, but its not looking like it will be so far. If any other ride in the park were down as much as this ride, there would be thread after thread regarding why its performing so poorly. With TTD, however, there is this double-standard that some measure its performance by. I can understand that to a certain degree, but to call its performance "great" is completely unrealistic. Its running well, at best - certainly not "great".

So, call me what you will - a hater, immature, whatever. I won't lose sleep. But don't make erroneous baseless statements and expect not to get called out on it.

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*** Edited 5/25/2006 11:10:27 AM UTC by djDaemon***

Ok djDaemon I want to say I misunderstood you, sorry. Let me just explain what I have been saying. Ok yeah people are plenty mad when Dragster experiences downtime and they are forced to leave the queue. It's understandable. But what gets me mad is that they sometimes blow things, little things, out of proportion when they dont understand. A 5-20 minute minute period of downtime is one thing, but would you rather have intervals of an hour? I'm guessing not. It kind of comes down to how patient some people are. They sometimes get out of line (queue) when the downtime might only last 10 minutes. If you dont want to wait, fine go ahead and leave. But dont start complaining about small little downtimes just because you wanted to leave but decided not to and waited through the extra 10 minute wait. That's what gets me mad.

Am I a fanboy, yes. I love the ride and it's my right to. I think we (all pointbuzz members) shouldnt label the term "fanboy" as being negative (cause some members do). Every ride can have a fanboy and we should all respect their love for a ride....even if the ride isnt your personal favorite.

And when I say "I told you so", it wont be till the end of the season. That will be proof enough.

I agree - there should be less complaining about the downtime if you're going to wait in line. TTD went down Saturday night about 9:50pm, and we stayed in line and waited around 15-20 minutes for it to resume operation. We were pretty certain it wouldn't have been a very long wait, and we were right.

I'm also not saying that being a fan of anything is a bad thing, unless, of course, that thing is the Miami Heat. ;) But, I think that a lot of the Dragster fans around here have been looking at the situation with rose colored goggles lately. You won't be able to say "I told you so", because the ride hasn't been doing very well. If it were to go through the rest of the season performing near flawlessly, then I would concede that its a great year. As it stands, however, its on track to be down at least 20% of the time. By any measure, that is pretty bad.

Compared to the previous years, wouldn't 20% of the downtime still be a smaller percentage? I think what Adam is saying is that it hasn't had any major breakdown time, like it has had in the previous years; and 20 minutes of downtime is way better than 3 hours of downtime.

I'm one of those people that comes once a year and I'm going this weekend. I would like to stand in a flawless line so I could ride everything as much as I could, but when I came in 2003 the ride was down the entire time. I'd rather stand in a 20 minute downtime line, than it be down all day.

Nothing wrong with people like Adam staying positive about his favorite ride. When I see him talking about it, I think its because the ride looks like it could do better this year than it has in previous years. I can understand what you're saying Daemon, but I think you're comparing it to rides like Maggie and MF, when Adam is comparing it to previous years. I'm no where near knowledgable enough to argue about the physics of the ride, but based on what I've seen in the rollercoaster world, launch coasters tend to have a lot more maintenance than coasters with lift hills and a big drop at the start.

I completely understand that its performance is being compared to previous years. That's not the focus of what I'm arguing. I keep reading how great of a year its having, when its not, unless you compare it to previous years, which is a debatable comparison. Plus, it is simply far too early in the season to make any predictions. For all we know, it could go down in August and be done for the year again.

^I don't understand why you started this. I've yet to read anyone who is anything more than optimistic about TTD's season so far. You're the only one making predictions.

It started out with a month of downtime (everyone complained). Then it was a week of downtime (everyone complained). It was down for a day (everyone was disappointed). It was down for 20-30 minutes a couple times throughout the day (djDaemon complains).

What do you want? There never has been a ride that has had 100% uptime for an entire season. TTD can't get much better than its doing right now and you're still complaining.

And in order to use the fanboy definition. Look at yourself before you call others a fanboy.

My Kinzel comment was meant as a joke, you know the things you laugh at.

Even though I've yet to flat out make a prediction, why don't you go over to the Project 2007 forum and yell at them for making predictions, since they are most likely all wrong.

Every person who knocked at TTD's downtime is being rather quiet except you. Keep your 30 minute downtime misery to yourself.

You mean like this?

Gomez said:
When this season starts, I'm going to pay close attention to the trip reports. I'll put in my signature, "Days since TTD's last breakdown". I have faith in CP and TTD that the ride can get over seven days without a single breakdown. I think the ride pulled this off last season, but I'm not sure. By-the-way, breakdown meaning at least half hour or so, rollbacks and minor setbacks don't count.

Dj reported that it was down half-hour plus at a time during his trip yet suddenly that is ok?

There is no reason not to expect it to have uptime similar to Magnum or Raptor. All rides should be able to run at 95% or better.

^You quoted me from April. I since quit the counting and really don't have to prove anything. I just don't like getting knocked down for making a prediction I never made.

I'm not saying half-hour downtime is okay, but there's a point where the complaining has to stop.

Why does it matter when he quoted you, it is in-fact what you said. You're upset the ride is not performing as well as you said it would. In your own post you made the rules of determining what down time is and now you want to pull out, not follow your own guidelines and say "..the ride is running so well.."

Bite the bullet and own up to what you said originally.

Fine, I'll bite the bullet. TTD sucks, why ride it when you have Magnum.

Now I'm fitting in. ;)

VICTORY!

*does the happy dance*

Gomez said:
Fine, I'll bite the bullet. TTD sucks, why ride it when you have Magnum.

FINALLY. We got through to him. Now if we can just get these others to see the light. ;)

Wow, you guys are right....it's the worst coaster ever. I cant believe I was stupid enough to be called a fan of such a horrible coaster...........::rolls eyes:: w/e

Know what's funny?, I dont think one Dragster fan has ever said to another person "Hey, you should love TTD because I love it". YET I see all kinds of people on here trying to detour us fans from liking Dragster. Why dont some of you just leave us fans alone and just accept the fact that we love a ride that you dont....joke or not.

Hold me for ransom and threaten me, but I will not declare a dislike for Dragster.....ever.

*** Edited 5/25/2006 7:56:47 PM UTC by TTD 120mph***

I don't see anyone telling you what to like or what not to like at all. I see people speaking the truth, regarding it's down time.

I like Dragster a lot actually, It's one of the most intense rides I have ever been on. I just have no faith in it's reliability.

Please sense the sarcasm Adam.

I hate the tension that these topics develop. I love CP and I don't feel like arguing with fellow fans.