New ride... place your bets!

I think the ride will be a Trust Air. The trains will have better capacity.

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Admission to Cedar Point - $39.00
Waiting in line for Millennium Force - One Hour & 30 Minutes
Getting a front seat ride on Millennium's yellow train at night for the last time - Priceless!

Heres by bet.  Intamin launched, to open slighty after the intamin 10 looper in Europe and will take away its title for inversions.   Barrel rolls, tophat(s), loops, speed!, + fun.  With a lauched you can still see the Lake, and like PR said at the MF opening, its a looper like the fans want.
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I was very concerned about all that I read here concerning the mathematical impossibility of deciphering PGP messages, even after I had been reassured by my FBI friend that the NSA managed to crack the code.  So I called him back to explain that certain cryptography experts on the Cedar Point board were convinced that what he was claiming was simply mathematically impossible.

Well, there was an embarrassing silence, and then he explained to me that he hadn't really told me the entire truth the first time.  (Those public sector security professionals have a tendency to reveal information only on a "need-to-know" basis...)  In fact, although it is true that it is computationally infeasible to decrypt most messages encrypted using the standard cryptographic algorithms (that's why they become standards!) there are well-known techniques in the cryptographic community to use side-band information to accumulate additional information that does permit solution of these problems on available hardware.

In this case, it turns out that the FBI used a technique known as "Van Eck Phreaking" that apparently involves gathering electromagnetic radiation from a computer during the encryption process and using the characteristics of this radiation to ascertain what operations the computer was performing, thus revealing information about the message and the key used to encrypt it.  (Hey, don't ask what all this means - I don't understand any of this stuff, I'm just repeating what I heard.)

So, Jeff, if you were wondering why that plumbing supplies van with the surprisingly large antenna has been seen suspiciously often in your neighborhood in the past few weeks, I guess there's your answer.

-- Harley

PS BTW, in answer to your challenge about posting the message, I don't think that would really be fair to everyone here.  The anticipation is much more enjoyable than the knowing.

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CP fan since 68.

So, they were spying on Jeff all along! I guess that shows how much our government employees love coasters. What does that have to do with phreaking, though?
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DIPPIN DOTS!!!111 THEY ROXOR YUR WORLD!!1!

So why didn't we see the plumbing van on the webcam? :)

Ken, don't tell me I was the only one that saw this...

http://www.geocities.com/tiny3k/images/secret.jpg

if above doesn't work... try this:

http://www.virtue.nu/tiny3k/secret.jpg

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Tommy Penner - Idiot Extraordinare!
http://coolforce.cjb.net -- The Most Important Internet Web Site.... EVER.
"It's kinda like selling your car for gas money."
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How about something with an old bungee cable that launches you, then the cable breaks, then it lands on a track, and your in a ball with two seats, so you're doing front flips, then you switch to wood track, then you are launched with LIMs, seting the track on fire, with automatic extinguishers putting it out, then the track ends, launching you into the lake, where your vehicle becomes a super submarine, then you turn into a jet and soars 100000000000000000000000000000000000 in the air, then spiral down to the ground and land on a trampoline, OR whatever you guys are saying. personally, I find my idea more creative and exciting.

MiLLeNNiuMRiDer-

Ahem....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Nice. :)

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Stupid People Shouldn't Breath...
-Gonzo

I didn't know the FBI was hip to the "ph" spelling often used by hackers... "phreaking"?   I think you need to get back to your warez, pal.  You're not fooling anyone.

Last night, every member of the FBI, Santa Claus, and myself were gettin' "phreaky" on the dance floor... so I know they weren't checking the radiation coming off your computer. 

Honestly, you'd be surprised on how "hip" the FBI can be if it's their specialty..
Try attending Defcon some year..

But.. nevermind.. it was a funny read.. hehehe

RGR
(Proud owner of 4 "I found the Feds" Defcon T-Shirts, all different years)

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Opps, can you get some napkins please???
MF total - 471 laps
VertiGo Launches - 79
June 11th, 2001 - Gemini 100

Jeff,tell us what it isn't.that would help us out.i saw this on coasterbuzz click
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is this a clue or just renovation only time will tell

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I'm not a rocket scientist, but wouldn't Jeff telling us what it isn't be the same as confirming what it is? It's called process of elimination. :)

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It was worth a try now wasn't it.

Van Eck Phreaking is part of the Tempest project, and yes, it basically captures the stray EMF coming off your monitor and records it, and essentially, plays it back.

Certain windows can block it, and they really hate it when you degauss your monitor. It's not so effective against LCD/LEDs, either.

I found Spartan's comments about the new coaster interesting :)

"What will CP bring to us in for next year..Hey I have my "thoughts" based on info here and there but what do I know right? I wouldn't want to speculate on a "impulse" and my faithful visitors be mislead. I wouldn't launch you in that direction people! Expect a Dormant part of the park to be revived for this IMHO and I hope you got your pics of Oceana and that part of the park in its present state.... :-0 "
http://www.msu.edu/~armbrus9/cp.html

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MF 00: 16
MF 01: 61
MF Total: 77
Be there through the thick and thin.

Well, taking jeffs comment in the capital investment thread at face value you can eliminate a thrust air (not mentioned) and a cci/boardwalk combination (mentioned too much). That leaves these possibilities-wildmouse, haunted house section of the park and an impulse coaster. Counter_rebels 20million improvements being the most interesting comment when you take everything that jeff has said into consideration. I hope its a launched something or other because ever since I rode speed: the ride ive known a launched ride is what cedar point has needed to round out its coaster collection.  anyway, i trust cedar point with making qaulity rides-they have only a couple let downs(ms!). again i make these suggestions based on jeffs comments.

I wouldn't say there are any "let downs" in the park.  Really, if you look at each ride for what it is, they are all up to par within their genre.  Although I would agree that some coasters are less than stellar when compared to other ones in the park.  I think we can all take comfort in knowing that this is Cedar Point, and not matter what they are destined to give a safe, top quality ride.
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At the turn of the Millennium, there were signs.

OK, and remember Jeff's comment about calling S:TE a coaster? That would seem to be that CP is getting some kind of launched coaster. Impulse?
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DIPPIN DOTS!!!111 THEY ROXOR YUR WORLD!!1!

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harley said:
"So, Jeff, if you were wondering why that plumbing supplies van with the surprisingly large antenna has been seen suspiciously often in your neighborhood in the past few weeks, I guess there's your answer."

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And here I thought it was just because I lived in a new subdivision with a dozen houses still under construction. I guess all they got was fake nudies of Jessica Alba since I encoded the message at work. :)

Seriously though, you don't need to hack code or tap my phone to figure this one out, gang (besides, you'd have more luck breaking into the P&D office at the park). You know the ride will go on the Oceana midway because there isn't an area in that park more in dire need of anything at all to wake it up. That's a long narrow strip of land. You know from previous hints it's a bigger and faster version of an existing ride.

If you really wanted to look harder, you could always watch the customs brokers out there. It only took two phone calls for me to find out that Millennium Force's first shipping container arrived in Canada (I forget the port) and traveled by rail to Windsor where it entered the US at Detroit by truck, December 1999.

Of course, to suggest that would be to suggest it wasn't anything from within the US like S&S (in Utah) or B&M (track manufactured in Ohio). Perhaps I've said too much!

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harley said:
"PS BTW, in answer to your challenge about posting the message, I don't think that would really be fair to everyone here.  The anticipation is much more enjoyable than the knowing."

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Spoken like a kid who knows everyone says he has cooties but won't say it to his face. :)

Are you secretly a writer for bad spy movies on TNT or USA, because that's how your story reads.

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Jeff
Webmaster/GTTP
"As far as I can tell it doesn't matter who you are. If you can believe there's something worth fighting for..." - Garbage, "Parade"

Okay, it's not an S&S, it's not a B&M, it is a launched, and it will be a bigger and better version of an existing ride...I still can't figure it out.

Alright, from this point forward, I think that we can assume without a doubt that it's going to be an Intamin "giant impulse."

Okay, now let's bet on the color!

All of Intamin's impulses, and other coaster track for that matter, are all a solid color. So I doubt it will have multi-colored track. I say it's either white or black just because there aren't an coasters with that color of track in the park. Or, can we can really get creative and say that there will be 2 dueling impulses with one white and one black...what do you guys think?

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MF count: 23

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