New for 2015

Oops posted in the wrong thread and didn't even realize that's why I deleted it
Sorry everyone my mistake

godsonsafari said:
I don't work for RMC, ergo I don't pretend to know precisely what their schedule would be...

You, however, seem to think you do.

I never claimed that I know anything. But it doesn't take a genius to look at past, nearly identical projects to determine how long similar projects should take. In fact, that is exactly how they establish project schedules.

Opening day and "construction completed" are different things. Gatekeeper did not take 10 months to build.

Who here claimed it did?

As for the strawman comment, well, your hypocrisy is downright adorable. :)

Kevinj said:
You need to brush up on your music, Shades. :) That's what it's all about...

I know the reference. It just looks funny spelling it out rather than singing it.

djDaemon said:

I never claimed that I know anything. But it doesn't take a genius to look at past, nearly identical projects to determine how long similar projects should take. In fact, that is exactly how they establish project schedules.

Again, you know how the project schedule would be set on a Mean Streak RMC overlay. How many inversions is it going to have?

Who here claimed it did?

Your methodology would have it as such.

This tweet is from Bryan, it could have something to do with Lebron James: https://twitter.com/BryanEdwardsCP/status/499997555129065472

godsonsafari said:
Again, you know how the project schedule would be set on a Mean Streak RMC overlay. How many inversions is it going to have?

What was that you were saying about a strawman? Pot, kettle.

Your methodology would have it as such.

I'd have looked to Wild Eagle (~7.5 months) and X-Flight (~8 months), and guessed GK would take 8 months.

And that guess would have been off by a little over 2%, since GK took 7.8 months.

You seem to think my attempt at estimating how long it would take to be me suggesting I know everything, when the reality is simply that I know how to operate a calculator. :)

I guess I joined the wrong discussion, I thought this was about 2015. It appears I came to an argument about how to convert a coaster to RMC.

My bad

:p

^^

djDaemon said:

You're right - NTG's conversion took 17 months. TG closed on November 1st, 2009. NTG opened on April 4th, 2011. That's 519 days. Or 17.1 months. Or 1.4 years.

Using the same format you used to calculate NTG construction time gives gatekeepers construction time around 9-10 months. You cannot pick and choose how you calculate construction time. For your arguments to have any validity you must use the same formate when calculating construction time.
Disaster transport closed 7-29-12
Gatekeeper opened 5-11-13
Your estimate would have been off by 16%
Total Gatekeeper construction time 286 days or 9 1/2 months.

Also to accurately forecast the duration of construction you need to know what the project contains. You know nothing of what this mythological project would entail therefor you cannot accurately estimate the construction time. This means you cannot simply say this isn't going to happen because there isn't enough time because you have no facts to support your estimated construction time. There are plenty of other ways to present an argument that this will not be done, but saying there isn't enough time when you don't know what the project entails is not a valid argument.

Dead Sexeh said:

Also to accurately forecast the duration of construction you need to know what the project contains. You know nothing of what this mythological project would entail therefor you cannot accurately estimate the construction time. This means you cannot simply say this isn't going to happen because there isn't enough time because you have no facts to support your estimated construction time. There are plenty of other ways to present an argument that this will not be done, but saying there isn't enough time when you don't know what the project entails is not a valid argument.

To be fair, creating construction timelines on imaginary rides with little regard to what it is being constructed makes for interesting message board posts. I, for one, am entertained.

Dead Sexeh, just what are you trying to gain from pointing out how wrong DJ is according to your logic? He's admitted his logic as pure guesstimation......please move on.

I am trying to get him to stop using an argument that has no facts to support it when trying to dismiss the idea of a Mean Streak makeover. There are plenty of arguments you can make that it will not happen, but making up timelines and using them as a reason why it can't be done is just plain stupid. I will move on when I get tired of the debate or when he uses a better argument to support his stance. Also he likes to nitpick everyone's posts so I figured I would do the same. I know it is pretty childish, but it's a public forum so what do you expect. Also everything I have posted is more on topic than half the stuff on the last 5 pages.

JUnderhill said:

We all know that floorless trains will make MS less rough, there will no longer be jack hammering etc... Also the floorless trains will allow all of the trim brakes to be removed turning what some consider to be a dull ride into non-stop heart pumping thrills.

You meant to put Mantis with that for the Floorless idea right? You cannot put floorless trains on Mean Streak.

Just to clarify, you guys are just arguing about who is the better guesser here, right? Was thinking maybe I missed something.

No, Shawn. Don't you get the sarcasm?

Oh sorry dude!

Wow, I thought the speculation before the Gatekeeper announcement was ridiculous.

Dead Sexeh said:
There are plenty of arguments you can make that it will not happen, but making up timelines and using them as a reason why it can't be done is just plain stupid.

We get it. Now follow Adam's sage advice:

TTD 120mph said:
He's admitted his logic as pure guesstimation......please move on.

Thinking about Mantis.... I found this on another blog:

"When we all saw our first coaster from Bolliger and Mabillard, it was very distinctive. The square box track was all the same size, and it appeared to be made from lots of small triangles. Now they have many different sizes of track, depending on the type of coaster being made for that specific project. Here are some samples of the various kinds of B & M track. The track for their first coaster, Iron Wolf at Six Flags Great America looks very similar to the track for Batman: the ride at the same park. The increase in weight of the flying coaster cars necessitated thicker tubes and a larger box. And when they introduced the dive coaster, the track and support structure took another jump is size." Find more here: http://newsplusnotes.blogspot.com/search/label/Bolliger%20And%20Mabillard.

So the question is, is a stand-up track able to support a floorless train?

If there's one thing that does surprise me so far, it's that we haven't even been given a date as to when we will find anything out.

I'm actually getting a little disinterested in the whole thing.

Has there ever been a year when there was NOTHING new? And by that I mean, no attraction, no building renovation, no new food stand or anything.