Mean Streak?

In response to Coater Kyle, Kings Island and Carowinds have included admission for the waterpark, but Cedar Point and Soak Cuty are steprerately gated parks, so it could be possible for both, but not very likely. Just more so than Carowinds and KI.

Since Cedar Fair has continued to show willingness to invest more in Cedar Point that all the other parks (Breakers for instance), I could absolutely see them doing both a Mean Streak refurbishment or RMC and a water park expansion. Especially since I don't see the park getting a water park expansion on the scale of Carowinds'.

Yes, Cedar Point is the flagship and the most important park in CF's portfolio. They are positioning the park more and more as a resort destination to attract people for multiple days. Breakers renovation, Breakers Express expansion, Sports Center, etc. I can see them continuing to invest more money into Cedar Point than other parks.

Rob Decker pretty much said that you cant really experience everything that Cedar Point has to offer in just a single visit. It's been very clear they are continuing to position Cedar Point for the multi-day visit. I even interpreted the thought of incorporating Soak City into the Cedar Point gate fee. Maybe that was just me though.

Cedar Fair/Cedar Point have a great leadership team in place so im pretty excited about the future of the company, my investment, and Cedar Point in particular.

I'm of the belief something is going to happen to MS this off season. The orange markings over the entire ride, plus the stakes aren't there just to mess with us.

With that being said, Im seriously hoping it's RMC doing it. If it's GCI doing it, it honestly doesn't move the needle much to me at all. I love GCI woodies. They are incredible, but them doing a refurb doesn't excite me. Brand new GCI's excite me.

While I know a GCI refurb would be a big improvement, an RMC Mean Streak could be needle moving to the point of being talked about has one of the best rides at the park and around the country potentially. RMCs other refurbs get stellar reviews and some are talked about has the best woodies or rides in the world. Id expect nothing less with MS. In fact I could envision it being they're best one. MS lends itself well for an epic, collosal RMC.

GCI refurb at park A. RMC conversion at park B. It's not completely incomprehensible to think that CF would contract multiple manufactures concurrently.

Based upon all of the markings I have a hard time not seeing something major happening to MS very soon. The only part I said was someone having fun was the RMC written on the top of a survey stake - that is just too obvious.

In the past I would have thought anything happening to MS this off season would be out of the question as there is already cleared land around the Resort entrance, and the removal of STR this past off season. I would have thought a few projects of this size immediately following a record breaking coaster would be too soon. However, it definitely appears that there are bigger plans in play for CP so now I think anything is possible.

The more and more I hear about the coasters that have been converted by RMC, the more hopeful I become that they one day get the chance to repair the mess that is MS...

Meaner Streak would be great. Or The Meanest Streak.

I would like to see them use the whyte lightning trademark if rmc does convert it

On a side note, Knotts had a soft opening of Ghostrider towards closing time this past week. Reports are that it's better than when it was new. Will GCI get the contract to do MS? It will be interesting to see what happens now.

GCI would not change Mean Streak's layout significantly. They could make it as smooth as butter but it would still not be an exciting ride.

Doesn't mean that isn't what management wants. Bear in mind enthusiasts make up less than one percent of the patrons of the industry. They are much more interest what Joe Public wants and the operational costs than what is expressed on the various forums. If it's less expensive to convert it over to the RMC system and it makes sense in the long run that's what they'll do. If the GCI solution works better for the bean counters, that's the route that will be taken.

I can't see how the RMC would be more expensive in the long run, as it removes the need for retracting every X number of years, and you have less overall wood to be inspected every day, or something.

I found this episode of Nerve Center about Cedar Point that I hadn't seen before. It is from a few years ago but I think it gives a good glimpse of what goes on behind the scenes everyday at the park and how much work goes into what we end up seeing while the park is open.

There are several segments in this episode about the carpentry crews that inspect and maintain Mean Streak and there is no doubt CP puts a lot of time and energy into maintaining the ride. I still think MS is one of the most visually impressive structures at CP and while I do not enjoy riding it, I sure enjoy seeing it and respect those who work hard to keep it safe.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=45DcqQVpvms

Dutchman said:

Doesn't mean that isn't what management wants. Bear in mind enthusiasts make up less than one percent of the patrons of the industry. They are much more interest what Joe Public wants and the operational costs than what is expressed on the various forums. If it's less expensive to convert it over to the RMC system and it makes sense in the long run that's what they'll do. If the GCI solution works better for the bean counters, that's the route that will be taken.

The GP (general public) doesn't want a boring ride, either. GCI Mean Streak would create a somewhat boring ride and would be much less marketable than RMC Mean Streak. Mean Streak has a trashy reputation among the GP and enthusiasts alike - GCI Mean Streak would possibly be ignored by the GP as maintenance work on an already crappy ride. It's not as dramatic and marketable as the twisted steel monster that would be RMC Mean Streak.

GCI has the ability to add excitement to boring rides. Does anyone remember the changes the made to the last 1/3 of RWB? It's plausible to do something similar to MS.

The refurbished GhostRider is scheduled to open this coming weekend at Knott's. It will interesting to read the reviews. I'm going to bet they don't say the ride is "boring".

CP Maverick said:

GCI has the ability to add excitement to boring rides. Does anyone remember the changes the made to the last 1/3 of RWB? It's plausible to do something similar to MS.

Count me in as one of the few that actually preferred Raging Wolf Bobs in the pre-retrack and G-train era. A backseat ride in those old trailered trains and ridiculously sloppy track was so rough and ridiculous, I actually thought it was fun in a twisted way. Once all that trackwork was done, I honestly found the ride tame and kind of dull.

And then there were the "in between years" of 2003-2005 when those G-trains were running on the old track in the first half of the ride... yikes.

GCI can come in and make the track as smooth as they want. But unless they tear down structure and create an entirely different layout, the result would just be long, slow boring turns for two and a half minutes. Which is what I felt Raging Wolf Bobs 2.0 was during GL's final years.

Chuck Wagon said:
The refurbished GhostRider is scheduled to open this coming weekend at Knott's. It will interesting to read the reviews. I'm going to bet they don't say the ride is "boring".

The media also didn't use the word 'boring' about Rougaroo last year... Annnnd, yeaaaah

That's why I specifically mentioned that last 1/3 of the ride. It was the only section that saw reprofiling and felt like a different ride.