Mean Streak- Redone

^Mother, actually, but Dad is pretty into it, too. We were there on our wedding day.

Paisley said:
Their ignorance won't change the fact that if they take out Mean Streak we will only have one woodie.

Pretty sure how many wood coasters the park would have if MS was removed is low on the list of Cedar Fair's concerns.

This weekend I was in Dallas and I was going to finally ride the New Texas Giant so I could compare it to Mean Streak..unfortunately there was rain and Six Flags actually shut down around 11:30 am, so I did not get to ride anything. It does look like an awesome ride, but I love Mean Streak and am opposed to Cedar Point redoing it.

I'm not sure you can actually compare New Texas Giant and Mean Streak.

Do you drive a Lexus and then compare it to a Ford Pinto?

You can love Mean Streak all you want, but placing those two rides in the same ballpark is a bit of an error in judgement.

Comparing the old Texas Giant to Mean Streak...now you're talking. There's a reason it's new, and a reason Mean Streak is what it is. That said, love on it all you want. I'll watch you from Maverick.

I don't understand the problems people have with Mean Streak. It's in my top 3 coasters to ride while visiting the Point. I've never experienced the roughness.. the key is NOT to brace yourself.

If a ride requires special instructions to enjoy, there's an issue.

And even if there weren't any roughness, it's not a very exciting ride.

^ Agreed about the instructions thing.

That said, it's fun because of the racing in and along the massive superstructure, plus the wheels screaming is great. It's not for everyone, but it's really enjoyable for those that like wooden coasters, especially because the line is usually miniscule.

So djDaemon, what do you suspect CP do with Mean Streak?

No idea what the park plans, but if I were in charge?

My first thought would be to give it the NTG treatment. However, considering the ride's age and the real estate it takes up, it may make more sense just to get rid of it altogether, put up a more modern wood coaster and a nice big western-themed dark ride.

That would be awesome to have the NTG treatment. Have any Cedar Fair parks had a Rocky Mountain addition/makeover to any of their woddies?

If it were to be demolished, I would beg for an Intamin prefab. I'm going to SFGAdv in mid June and I can't wait to get on El Toro. Flying over those hills is going to be the best. Not only is it rated as the #1 wooden coaster, but it's rated #1 out of any coaster from CoasterBuzz's list: http://coasterbuzz.com/RollerCoasters/Top100

Bummer about SFoT being closed on Sunday, I was in Dallas as well and didn't get to go because of it.

With that said, I think it's absolutely appropriate to talk about Texas Giant vs Mean Streak considering they were both very similar rides made by the same designers. Both were big, clunky and uninspired.

Only one of them will I ride now, and it isn't Mean Streak. NTG treatment would be nice, but I'm more of a burn it down and build something awesome and new kind of guy.

I agree that Texas Giant and Mean Streak could be contrasted and compared, but not NTG and Mean Streak. People have this assumption that NTG is simply TG with a new track, while nothing could be further from the truth. For all intents and purposes, they might as well have torn down the existing ride and built it up from the ground up, but perhaps TG served some type of nostalgic purpose for that park.

I would argue that Mean Streak has nearly zero nostalgic value at Cedar Point. Pretty? Yes, and does it have a mediocre (at best) fan base? Sure...but for that reason alone, if anything ever does happen at this site, I would bet on a complete removal and new build of something in its place.

But I do understand why some people enjoy it. I think that's great. Different strokes for different folks. I'm entirely apathetic to what happens to Mean Streak a this point.

TwistedWicker77 said:
That would be awesome to have the NTG treatment. Have any Cedar Fair parks had a Rocky Mountain addition/makeover to any of their woddies?

If it were to be demolished, I would beg for an Intamin prefab. I'm going to SFGAdv in mid June and I can't wait to get on El Toro. Flying over those hills is going to be the best. Not only is it rated as the #1 wooden coaster, but it's rated #1 out of any coaster from CoasterBuzz's list: http://coasterbuzz.com/RollerCoasters/Top100

And ratings mean a lot.

I don't believe Cedar Fair has had a visit from Rocky Mountain, but they could use one or two in my opinion.

I'm curious to know what Intamin and/or Rocky Mountain coasters you've had a chance to try.

Ratings mean a lot to me when a majority of coaster enthusiasts vote upon a ride that I've been on and approve of the rating.

The way I worded my last post was weird. It kind of made it seem like I've never been on El Toro, but I went once back in 2012 and could not stop riding it.

If you're considering all Intamin coasters, I think it would be easier to list the ones I haven't been on. But if you're considering all Intamin prefab woodies, since there is only 1 in the US that I know of, El Toro, I've ridden that a couple years ago. As far as Rocky Mountain coasters go, I have yet to be on any until this summer also. But I heard nothing but good things.

Based on what has been said around here, I'd be surprised if CF did more business with Intamin in the near future.

Regardless, I'd much rather see a GCI than an Intamin.

Right, because what's said around here is influential in how CP makes multi-million dollar deals.

That's not what I suggested. Sorry if I wasn't clear.

Bits of news about the consequences of CP's multi-million dollar deals sometimes find their way on here. There were some things said about the fallout between Intamin and CF after StR's construction that indicate the relationship between the two companies is not excellent.

I remember hearing very similar indications about B&M dealing with the park (not so much Cedar Fair altogether) since Cedar Point never built shelter over the storage tracks for any of the B&Ms except for Raptor. I heard this stemmed from the 1996 addition of Mantis, and Gatekeeper hadn't received covered shelter over their storage track either. Now whether that is true, Lord only knows. And Cedar Point/B&M :)

Kevin, I think you have the wrong idea about what I said about comparing Mean Streak and the NTG. A lot of people on this site have said they would like to see the NTG Treatment on Mean Streak. The original Texas Giant seems to be very similar to Mean Streak considering its layout, elements, and the fact that Mean Streak was inspired by NTG and designed by the same man as NTG. Had I been able to ride NTG, maybe I would have really loved it and as a result of that, I would want to have Mean Streak replaced by a NTG treatment.

In a sense I would be comparing Mean Streak with "New Mean Streak," if that were to happen.

If Rocky Mountain were to do work on Mean Streak I think the Topper Track would be a much better choice than the Ibox Track like on NTG.

Topper Track replaces the top two layers of the wood track while still allowing the same PTC trains to run on it, keeping the feel of a traditional wooden coaster. It's a much smoother system that also minimizes maintenance for the park.