Length: This picture basically says it all...

http://www.virtualmidway.com/mystery/attraction434.jpg

That piece of track sitting in the mud is adjacent to the series of tan supports directly in front of the yellow tower. It is on the side closest to the lagoon. So essentially, that is the end of the ride right there. If you're not convinced that this ride will only consist of one main element, well, you must be looking for footers that don't exist!

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Jes
Jes's Roller Coasters DJ Jes
Six Flags Worlds Of Adventure 2002 Ride-Ops Crew! Have fun trying to find me!
*** This post was edited by Zero-G 10/20/2002 12:36:01 AM ***

Who said all the footers do exist? The season is not even over yet and you already know where the end of the ride is..unbelievable!
I was going along with the L-TH-B theroy until I saw the pics of the new yellow supports in the parking lot. The new supports certainly aren't going on top of the current tower, so is the going to be a second tower?
i was just at cedar point on saturday, it is 2 am and i just got home. i must say that the supports in the parking lot are becoming less and less. i believe they will be used on the rest of the tower. i also noticed that on the left side of the main support structure, the tan supports at one point are two different sizes, but still really close together.
You think that these supports are going on to the current tower?

http://www.virtualmidway.com/mystery/attraction402.jpg

I do.
That f*#@ up looking one is probably giong at the top to connect all the others together. If you notice all the cross members going every which way then that piece makes sense.

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-Mike

The Fast and the Fearless

That support does appear to be too large to connect to the tower, but since the pullout is all but connected to the brake run at this point, I'd say it'll have to fit on the tower somewhere.
Don't forget how large the three main vertical pieces are. They're something like 5' in diameter, if not larger. It makes sense if you figure that when they reach the final level, they just have two pieces angle in towards the center, which is where the apex of the tophat would be. Also, back spine that's angling in now appears like it will eventually connect to that weird piece as well.

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I'm having a hard time believing that the wacky looking support is going on top of the tower. That thing is huge and there are more than 3 connections.

I saw earlier where someone mentioned that the downward pull out doesn't meet up with the brake run, can someone whose been to the work site either confirm or deny this?

Looking at it all yesterday, I think this ride is one element as well,maybe two element if you count the twist on the way down. This is the disappointment Jeff told us about.

Yes,going up over 300 feet will be cool and the straight down twist will be neat,but a circuit would have been great. If you look at the overheads on virtual midway,there just doesn't seem to be room for a full circuit around there,even if they did use Millie Isle.

What don't you guys understand? That peice of track has magnetic fins to STOP the train. As in, the train will have no more momentum. As in, it won't be able to conquer any more elements. As in, the next place you stop will be in a station platform. I think you guys are in denial... the ride is over.

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Jes
Jes's Roller Coasters DJ Jes
Six Flags Worlds Of Adventure 2002 Ride-Ops Crew! Have fun trying to find me!

Denial is a hard thing for some people. Seeing CP put in 2 less than full circuit coasters is hard to swallow I guess. Yes,this new ride isn't in the same class as WT, people want 6 or 7 thousand feet of track. Those fins are obviously brake run fins although they could be launch track fins too or are no magnets involved there at all?
Don't they have yet to build the launch mechanism also? I think some of the weird supports will definitely go there. The rest does seem like it would be able to fit on top of the tower.

-albert

MFJedi,
How would this not be full circuit?


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Lets all think about this for a second. One is launched at 110-120 miles an hour or so. Then crests a 400 foot tophat. Then the train must come back down that 400 feet. From my basic understanding the train will be traveling pretty fast.

A 120 mile and hour launch in 3 seconds is pretty fast. If this is going to be a Launch, Top Hat, Brake coaster. Would the brake have to be somewhat as fast with no extra track or elements to slow the train.

If so, *OUCH*
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I fool so feelish...
*** This post was edited by James K. 10/20/2002 1:18:42 PM ***

Look at this picture: http://www.virtualmidway.com/popup/mysterypopup6001.asp?image=attraction423.jpg&title=Mystery%20Attraction

You can clearly see the station footers in the bottiom of the picture. if you follow that, then you see the launch to the tower. After the tower, you can see the brake run. [you can see were the track changes from rectangle track on the tower, to flat track on the brake run. The flat track need longer supports than the rectangle, due to the lack of body under the rails]

If you think this coaster isn't at L TH B, you thoughts are corrupted by wishful thinking.

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James K. said:
MFJedi,
How would this not be full circuit?


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Lets all think about this for a second. One is launched at 110-120 miles an hour or so. Then crests a 400 foot tophat. Then the train must come back down that 400 feet. From my basic understanding the train will be traveling pretty fast.

A 120 mile and hour launch in 3 seconds is pretty fast. If this is going to be a Launch, Top Hat, Brake coaster. Would the brake have to be somewhat as fast with no extra track or elements to slow the train.

If so, *OUCH*
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I think my definition of full circuit is a little more than most. I tend to think,in my mind,full circuit is something that is more than up and back, something with length like MF or Magnum. Sorry for the confusion.

Yes,2003 is full circuit as it leaves the loading side and comes back either to an unloading side or the original point while going a full,connected, continuous length of track.

This thing is NOT going to come back to the station at 120mph or whatever the launch speed is. Physics won't permit it. The 100-120 will be used up to get it up to the top of the tophat, it will have some of the speed left,but unless it is propelled downward too,I don't see how it could come back at more than 80mph or so.


If it drops more than 300 feet from the top, it'll go faster than 93 mph, therefore hitting the brakes faster than 93 mph. Which is how fast MF goes.

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RIDE IT AGAIN!!!

What some don't understand is hitting the brakes at 90 plus mph is going to be a thrill in itself....Riding Xcelerator people enjoyed the speed by which they hit the brakes..It was like they received an additional rush or something....I can't imagine what people are going to say with this thing...
So I guess we're talking about a 10 second ride then?? That seems hard to believe, which is why I think there will be something more to this ride...
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