CO movie theater shooting and metal detectors at CP

I'm on vacation and don't feel like reading through 6 pages about metal detectos, so sorry if this was already brought up. But just think about how long lines to get into the park would be if every person entering the park had to walk through metal detectors. Common items such as keys or braces could set them off, requiring security to check that person which would create long lines. Well, then almost everyone will set off the alarm because I'm sure most people that go to the park will have at least one metal item with them.

To be fair, most metal detector locations require you to remove anything metal before you go through.

^That doesn't mean people are going to do it. Even at the airport I still seem to get stuck behind the guy who missed the 27 signs posted about removing ALL objects from your pockets.

Ride On_17 said:
But just think about how long lines to get into the park would be if every person entering the park had to walk through metal detectors.

When I went to Six Flags Great Adventure in 2010, it took 45 minutes just to enter the park because of the lines created by the metal detectors. So yah, not a great way to make a first impression. Not to mention if your goal was to shoot up a crowd of people, you had thousands of them pooled into a relatively small area on the outside of the metal detectors.

Ralph Wiggum said:

When I went to Six Flags Great Adventure in 2010, it took 45 minutes just to enter the park because of the lines created by the metal detectors. So yah, not a great way to make a first impression. Not to mention if your goal was to shoot up a crowd of people, you had thousands of them pooled into a relatively small area on the outside of the metal detectors.

Not surprising for Six Flags. Carowinds on the other hand which is another Cedar Fair park takes 5 minutes at the most to get through their metal detectors. Amazing what happens when you have all of them open when you expect a large crowd.

Kennywood's go somewhat fast...

Ralph Wiggum said:

When I went to Six Flags Great Adventure in 2010, it took 45 minutes just to enter the park because of the lines created by the metal detectors. So yah, not a great way to make a first impression. Not to mention if your goal was to shoot up a crowd of people, you had thousands of them pooled into a relatively small area on the outside of the metal detectors.

Oh great. I'm going to SFGA in a few days. Now I get to look forward to this :/

So just to sum up, in case you're just joining us, installing metal detectors at Cedar Point would not make anyone any safer. It may create an illusion of increased safety, but would, at the same time, create another line, come at pointless increased cost, and would be quite an odd way to welcome people into your park.

Picklesthedrummer said:

Ralph Wiggum said:

When I went to Six Flags Great Adventure in 2010, it took 45 minutes just to enter the park because of the lines created by the metal detectors. So yah, not a great way to make a first impression. Not to mention if your goal was to shoot up a crowd of people, you had thousands of them pooled into a relatively small area on the outside of the metal detectors.

Not surprising for Six Flags. Carowinds on the other hand which is another Cedar Fair park takes 5 minutes at the most to get through their metal detectors. Amazing what happens when you have all of them open when you expect a large crowd.

Or they could have them off like KI did for years, to give that false sense of being secure.

Walt said:
Often quoted, but always worth bringing up:

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

Benjamin Franklin

Do you think the world has changed just a little bit since the 1700s? Ben Franklins biggest worry was probably how long it took to load a musket.

^ + 1,000,000

Those who distribute internet points without Prudence, to purchase a little temporary virtual Bromance, deserve neither Prudence nor Bromance.

Steve1984 said:

Walt said:
Often quoted, but always worth bringing up:

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

Benjamin Franklin

Do you think the world has changed just a little bit since the 1700s? Ben Franklins biggest worry was probably how long it took to load a musket.

Highly doubt that that was Ben Franklin's biggest worry. His words still ring very true.

I think Franklin's biggest worry probably had to do more with the souvenirs he picked up during his posting in France, if you know what I mean.

The best thing about what was said/written back then was how easily it translates to society no matter what decade it is. Something tells me they figured it would and should. :)

Steve1984 said:
Do you think the world has changed just a little bit since the 1700s? Ben Franklins biggest worry was probably how long it took to load a musket.

Great point. Never thought of it that way. Certainly there's nothing from back then that's useful for us today.

Boy, this frees up quite of bit of dead weight in this country. What is there from the 1700s can we dump?

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press;"

blah, blah, blah. Enough advice from you, dead politicians. We don't need you to "protect" us. It's 2012, bitch!

Let's see ... what else ...

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

Ha, tricked you. That one is already being phased out. Amen to that. Only bad people have something to hide.

So, yes, let's strike the Constitution, Declaration of Independence, and anything else from "days of yore."

Careful Walt, the tone of that post, in the eyes of the NDAA, is enough evidence for unlawful eviction and indefinite detainment without due process. ;)

Walt said:

Steve1984 said:
Do you think the world has changed just a little bit since the 1700s? Ben Franklins biggest worry was probably how long it took to load a musket.

Great point. Never thought of it that way. Certainly there's nothing from back then that's useful for us today.

Boy, this frees up quite of bit of dead weight in this country. What is there from the 1700s can we dump?

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press;"

blah, blah, blah. Enough advice from you, dead politicians. We don't need you to "protect" us. It's 2012, bitch!

Let's see ... what else ...

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

Ha, tricked you. That one is already being phased out. Amen to that. Only bad people have something to hide.

So, yes, let's strike the Constitution, Declaration of Independence, and anything else from "days of yore."

I must have missed the part where I said nothing useful came from back then. My point is many things have to be looked at differently now than they were 250 years ago.

All he was doing was pointing out that even though things may have looked different back then the ideals are still the same.

Steve1984 said:
I must have missed the part where I said nothing useful came from back then. My point is many things have to be looked at differently now than they were 250 years ago.

So who gets to decide which parts are relevant and which aren't? Or is it just the ones that fit your view of how things should be are determined relevant, and the ones that challenge that view are irrelevant?