CO movie theater shooting and metal detectors at CP

I used to be against metal detectors at Kings Island for taking the fun and excitement away from entering an amusement park. Now I wish all Cedar Fair parks will incorporate them in the very near future system wide. It is inevitable that this type of thing will be happening much more frequently with people just losing it in public settings. It is not a knee jerk reaction from me but when I saw the video and watched innocent children in Batman costumes running for their lives it just sickened me and saddened me. Those children were shot and may possibly be some of the dead. Those people were just there to have a good time and the children were there for a magical moment. Face it we are all at CP for those exact moments with friends and family. A small inconvenience at the front gate is NOTHING and I hope that metal detectors as a deterrent are brought to most parks in the very near future.

If you want to live in a protective bubble, build yourself one. Don't force the rest of us to live under the rule of pointless security theater.

This is the definition of a knee-jerk reaction.

DjDaemon said

"If you want to live in a protective bubble, build yourself one. Don't force the rest of us to live under the rule of pointless security theater."

I am not forcing anything. Is anyone here forcing you to be such a prick on these boards? No they are not. Just wait until until the busloads of hoodlums return from Detroit this September or October. Remember the near riot conditions last year? Many people complained about the fights and lack of security all day around several areas of the park. Instead of just beating your chest on these forums to be king jerk, (yes you are we all agree) try opening your eyes and see what is happening all around you.

So how would metal detectors protect everyone just outside the gates and in the parking lot?

What happened in Denver was going to happen. If not in that theater, because of a metal detector, then somewhere else. Lunatics will find a place to be a lunatic.

Detectors are never meant to be an "end all". They are a deterrent. I agree that anyone can get past anything if they REALLY wanted to but think of what can easily be brought in. Knives, razors, guns and some idiots getting into a fight is all it takes.

Right I agree that was meditated and planned at the theater. I dont see anyone planning something at the park, BUT who would thought that anyone would gas a movie theater full of people and shoot random people and children? Better safer now than sorry later.

Metal detectors wouldn't make you any safer, they just allow you the illusion of such.

The shooting happened because a bad person was intent on doing bad things, and no amount of "security" was going to deter him.

And DJ hit the nail on the head.

The very minor inconvenience of a metal detector might prevent Cedar Point from becoming known as that place where all of those people were massacred.
The first thing that comes to mind about Kentucky Kingdom is it being the place where that girl got her feet cut off.
From a business stand point, I would rather my park be known for over-protecting our guests rather than the one that did nothing to prevent guests from being injured or killed.

clevelander said:
Instead of just beating your chest on these forums to be king jerk, (yes you are we all agree) try opening your eyes and see what is happening all around you.

You've really got to learn just to ignore Dj's rather arrogant posts...

But, the metal detectors would just slow down everything while entering the park. It would be like going through the airport. When you go into public, you are taking a risk with other people... Cedar Point is no different.

clevelander said:
...try opening your eyes and see what is happening all around you.

I see people, as they always do, having uninformed, knee-jerk reactions to a tragic event.

Metal detectors in the theater wouldn't have prevented this, because the guy came in the emergency exit, and theaters simply cannot afford to have security checkpoints at every entrance and exit. Unless you want to pay $50 for a movie ticket.

This is a very tragic, senseless act. It would be even more tragic to use it as an excuse to install pointless, ineffective "security".

As I said, if you want to live your life in fear, build yourself a panic room and stock up on canned goods. I'll take the infinitesimally small risk of being a victim of such a tragedy in order to live my life unencumbered by such pointless security theater.

There's no doubt that metal detectors would make it harder to bring a gun into the park. However, if you "really" wanted to, it wouldn't take that long to figure out how to get one in, especially if you have partner(s). The place is accessible by water and a road goes around most of the park. All you have to do is toss a backpack in from the road or your preferred method of water travel! And if someone really wanted to target CP, they'd probably take the action it takes to avoid going thru the detectors.

I am sure that CF evaluates its security procedures on a continuous basis. What happened in Colorado yesterday is just one small part of what goes into their analysis. I wouldn't expect this incident to result in metal detectors unless the park was incredibly close to putting them in anyways.

Life carries with it a certain risk of dying. There is only one way to avoid that risk completely. Its all a balancing act in terms of risks which are reasonable to take. And that will vary from person to person.

CF will make whatever decision it makes with respect to security and customers will react accordingly. There may be some value to the perceived safety that any given procedure actually provides (in addition to whatever actual safety benefit provided).

"There is only one way to avoid that risk completely"

Refuse to be born?

JuggaLotus said:
"There is only one way to avoid that risk completely"

Refuse to be born?

Die.

But then you haven't avoided that risk, you've realized it.

True, but at the same time, the risk would no longer exist. :)

Exactly. How many dead people are having the discussion that we are right now in this thread? Or are affraid to go to a movie theater or an amusement park (with or without metal detectors)? ;)

^I'm not afraid to go to a movie theater after this because a lunatic can be anywhere and there's no way for me to know when or where they will be. I won't live in fear because of lunatics like the guy in Colorado.

It's just an awful thing that happened and is sickening to think about the people who lost their lives while out for entertainment.