Cedar Point's Next Coaster

They aren’t crucial in any way shape or form. But Manta at SeaWorld Orlando made a believer out of me... I’d like to have a B&M Flyer closer to home. Is it a good fit for Cedar Point? Maybe not, again because of capacity (sure you can have dueling stations but that doubles the staff needed to run it). Also CP likes their “-est” coasters. I really liked that Manta didn’t need to go sky high to work (would still like to ride Tatsu @ SFMM though).


ROUNDABOUND.

If you look back through the blog Tony Clark mentions that Cedar Point had made a purchase at IAAPA not this year but last. Also found the intamin post from this past summer kinda interesting in that Tony mentions Jason Mclure had a meeting with them he said he was not sure what about but they are remaining tight lipped. Just found it interesting. Would love to see another intamin if it can be reliable.

Kevinj's avatar

MOMMY & DADDY: Wake up, it's Christmas morning!

KID: What? Oh yea! Yippee....Christmas...!

A tear rolls down mommy's cheek as the kid runs downstairs to see what treasures Santa left behind.

MOMMY & DADDY: Go ahead, pick one and open it up!

KID: Wow! A Red Ryder BB Gun!

DADDY: Don't poke your eye out! Hahahaha

KID: Hahahaha

MOMMY: Hahahaha

DADDY: Say son, what do you say we go try out your brand new present!

KID: Sure, but first before we do, can we talk about what I might get next year?

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CoasterKyle1121's avatar

I’m crying after that post 😂😂😂😂😂😂.


1999: First visit
Halloweekends- Harvest Fear, Tombstone Terror-Tory
Ride Operations- Professor Delbert’s Frontier Fling

ValravnCP's avatar

What about a 4D coaster? Those look so much fun.


R.I.P Luminosity ~ 2012-2017 ~ Greatest show in Heaven, Hell or Earth
Steel Vengeance rides: 20

Joe E's avatar

Never too early to talk about the inevitable Wood Topper track conversion coming for Steel Vengeance ...


Gemini 100- 6/11/01

2019: Prof. Delbert’s Frontier Flong moves to Sports Force Park, & a log flume (similar to WWL) taking the old STR spot
2020: Dionsaurs Alive removal & B&M Flyer on Millennium Island
2021: Dark Ride (similar to plants vs. Zombies @Carowinds)
2022: Flat Rides where stadium was
2023: CP Shores Expansion
2024: tear down Cedars and expand the Iron Dragon Midway (foot bridge over the road)
2025: Wild Mouse (similar to Wild cat and a coupel of new flat rides)

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13-Tiques/Wave Swinger
12-Camp Snoopy; Tiques/Wave Swinger
11-CP & LE Railroad Platform; Cedar Creek Mine Ride; Tiques/Wave Swinger

ValravnCP's avatar

I think CP Shores has had enough expansions...

Also, I think this is the last year for Dinosaurs Alive.


R.I.P Luminosity ~ 2012-2017 ~ Greatest show in Heaven, Hell or Earth
Steel Vengeance rides: 20

While Dilberts Fling may move, it probably wont happen until they get started on their Trailhead, pier thing they want to build at the end of one of the former runways.

I also think the Wild Mouse type coaster will happen sooner and where the stadium formerly was located. Camp Snoopy was 20 years ago, and Planet Snoopy was 10. Seems like time for another kiddie ride refresh, butthe actual rides for both seem to be doing well so I'd thing something that can act as a "bridge" coaster would be great investment. Maybe a couple small things in Kiddie Kingdom too. I'd say this happens in 2-3 years.

Next year, I hope that the new CEO brings everything that works at Carowinds regarding food to CP. That whole dept needs better direction.

If life has taught me anything, it is to live in the present and enjoy the moment. I have things I am excited to do between now and the end of the month that make me not ready to get to May yet. When May hits, I’ll be excited for Steel Vengeance. I can’t even imagine worrying about future years yet.

I’ll admit that I, along with many here, have thought about Steel Vengeance for a very long time. Even back to the days when RMC was making its mark and folks started discussing what the potential was for a Mean Streak makeover.
To all of us I say “Good things come to those who wait” and now that it’s so close I’m more anxious than I care to admit. I hope it’s a nice evening, and a fun time. I have no question the ride will be just everything.

But, I’m also with you, Cartwright. As I get older I remember that my elders would say “Don’t wish your life away”, and there’s so much truth to that.
I snarked way up the page here, but seriously, I don’t get these wish-list/predictions threads. I’ve been a CP regular and ultra fan for decades and one of the things I’ve always enjoyed is being surprised by what CP has up next for us. We may think we “know”, but you have to admit the joy is in the details. Like it or lump it, it’s fun to see things evolve as only they have planned.

(PS- except Steel Vengeance! OMG, I can’t WAIT 🤠)

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tedders55 said:

While Dilberts Fling may move, it probably wont happen until they get started on their Trailhead, pier thing they want to build at the end of one of the former runways.

What is this Trailhead Pier thing? Do you have a link to more information?


#20in2020

Pete's avatar

It's called The Landing and will be built at the Cedar Point Sports Center. Here is some information from the Sandusky Register.


I'd rather be in my boat with a drink on the rocks,
than in the drink with a boat on the rocks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAzQ43-1hFE

It's made by Intamin. Thought the 5th comment under the video was interesting, I would have said the same thing. Stretching along the Lake Erie beach, parallel to the main preferred parking lot. Queue line/station at the old AWE stadium location. Would be kinda neat. We shall see.

Visionist's avatar

We all like to joke about Cedar Point building a coaster in the parking lot, but a careful look reveals it's actually possible, should they choose to do so:

What are those large buildings next to Blue Streak? Catering? Switching out two of them for a station to a B&M flying hyper whose lift hill rises boldly over Blue Streak's southern turnaround and the road to the back of the island, before sending riders on an out & back extremely photogenic series of hills, pretzels and Immelmans which winds its way along the undulating road all the way to the toll booths and back, following the curving boundary between the main parking lot and the overflow lot used as a boat yard in winter. The grass boundary visible on Google Maps satellite view would house the footers. An instant icon. All Cedar Point blogs would surely use it as a backdrop, and it would become a known symbol of the park, visible for the entire length of the lot, like Gatekeeper's keyhole towers. White footers and sky blue track & trains in deference to Blue Streak's heritage. Four to five trains with a double side-by-side station.

Records broken: Tallest flying coaster, Fastest flying coaster, Steepest drop on a flying coaster, Highest inversion on a flying coaster, Longest flying coaster, First hyper flying coaster, Most number of inversions on a flying coaster, Most amount of coasters in a park over 200', Most amount of steel coaster track at a park, Fastest flying coaster dispatches (joking on the last one- Most expensive B&M coaster ever is probably a more accurate record. The overflow lot for materials storage means construction could proceed throughout the 2019 season, barring those days when the lot is needed for overflow, when work would stop as the lot would have to be cleared. In winter work would proceed as the main lot would now be empty).

Thinking outside the box, something highly ambitious nobody has suggested; a wooden polercoaster, by anybody willing to push the envelopes of wooden structures. I envision the ride as a vertically stacked, wood framed spaghetti bowl. Relatively small footprint, 300' height. Stresses would be reduced by the relatively small nature & reduced speed of any one element.

(render by Soko at https://nolimitscentral.com/forum/topic/100)

Tallest wooden coaster, Most inversions on a wooden coaster, Steepest drop on a wooden coaster, Longest wooden coaster ride time (perhaps longest ride time of any coaster), Fastest launch on a wooden coaster (straight outta the station and up the vertical track to the top), Most amount of headchopper moments on a ride (lol) Rip out Dinosaurs Alive and Snake River Falls, but keep CCMR.

The name? Towering Timbers, of course.


If we build it, they will come.

Surely you kid. Any park or park operator who would do any sort of envelope pushing with a wooden coaster after the disasterous attempts in the 90s and early 2000s would be ill advised. Bigger, taller, faster does not work with wood.

That's what she said.

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CoasterKyle1121's avatar

Surely you would think that. You’re not a visionist ;)


1999: First visit
Halloweekends- Harvest Fear, Tombstone Terror-Tory
Ride Operations- Professor Delbert’s Frontier Fling

Visionist's avatar

What's the latest on the Intamin/CF makeup rumours? A prefab would be the way to go, exchanging future maintenance costs for a much higher payout up front (minus any token discount Intamin owe CF for the STR fiasco). A wooden structure would weigh less than a steel one, helping to reduce costs of foundation construction which make a steel polercoaster impractical on the site (not to mention winds off the lake).

Taller, not faster if you forego a launch.


If we build it, they will come.
Pete's avatar

The thought of a wood Polar Coaster and tower is a project that is rediculously impractical.

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I'd rather be in my boat with a drink on the rocks,
than in the drink with a boat on the rocks.

Visionist's avatar

That's the idea. 150th anniversary. Go bigger than the competition can afford to.

Following the usual inpronouncable mythical creatures model, a B&M flyer could be called Wyvern.


If we build it, they will come.

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