Cedar Point Announces New Water Ride for 2010 Season

@crazy horse...

I need to step back? I was just trying to stop the madness not create more of it lol.

Why is it that Disney can pull off Worlds of Color, Universal launches Harry Potter, and Vegas can host new rides on the Stratosphere tower yet Cedar Fair can't get their seemingly simple (by comparison) projects launched on time? Even the new Sally dark ride on the pier in California opened on schedule - and ALL of these were prototype projects to one degreee or another.

If CP put as much effort into engineering as they do to hype and teasing - who knows what they could accumplish? But as much as they want to be big players in the industry along side these others - something is missing.

The point I am making here is that the media buzz that THEY created wasn't lived up to. Not once, but several times (TTD, Maverick, & now STR). Disney hasn't even officially opened Worlds of Color and are now divulging information concerning the CARS and Little Mermaid rides. Busch Gardens is also opening up on their latest projects as well.

Management needs to recognise the fact that if they create a web following like they did - they are going to have a hard time stopping that freight train especially if it derails before it reaches the station.

Actualy, the dark ride on the west coast did open a few days late;)

SteveH - except that Cedar Point has nothing to do with the engineering of the ride.

Their job is to order it, hype it and operate it. That's it.

Point your blame at intamin....not cedar point.

The only blame you can point at cp, is the fact that they keep going with intamin.

Kyle2154 said:
Any real indepth updates are pretty much out of the question. I'm assuming Intamin and Cedar Fair still have good relations and aren't going to be throwing one another under the bus. Explaining why a ride is delayed a month without making one or the other look bad is near impossible.

Still sucks the ride isn't open though, I couldn't care less about whether it's because of the washer or the lug nut on the boat.

It is not only that they don't want to throw each other under the bus but frankly, it is none of anyone not involved with the project's business. It is just like when a ride goes down at a park and the "Im not sure, check back later" answer is given. That is what I had to do when I worked at SFGAm, even though the majority of the time we knew what the problem was, and this goes with most other parks too including CP.

There is absolutely no reason that they have to give you the specifics as to what is wrong. Hell, if it was some severe problem they don't want some coaster nerds spreading it all over the internet! The basic facts are all that is needed... if it is open or closed and when it may open. There is no need to let everyone know otherwise because you can't do anything about it.

SuperNitroForce said:
It is not only that they don't want to throw each other under the bus but frankly, it is none of anyone not involved with the project's business. It is just like when a ride goes down at a park and the "Im not sure, check back later" answer is given. That is what I had to do when I worked at SFGAm, even though the majority of the time we knew what the problem was, and this goes with most other parks too including CP.

There is absolutely no reason that they have to give you the specifics as to what is wrong. Hell, if it was some severe problem they don't want some coaster nerds spreading it all over the internet! The basic facts are all that is needed... if it is open or closed and when it may open. There is no need to let everyone know otherwise because you can't do anything about it.

And that would be exactly why I said...

I couldn't care less about whether it's because of the washer or the lug nut on the boat.

I want to know I think details like that are interesting. Thats why when I'm bored I read every point blog/cast, come here, check screamscape etc...
Tony you can pm me since no one else is interested ;)

SteveH said:Universal launches Harry Potter

It's kind of hard to delay a project that has no opening date. Plus, if you have been following HP at IOA then you would know their new ride is having plenty of problems.

No...it can't be. Cedar Point is clearly the only park where new rides have issues and delays.

Lulz.

Yes, Cedar Point is the ONLY thing thats having problems opening on time. Oh besides Kennywood's Sky Rocket, Holiday World's Timberliners, and of course IOA's Harry Potter world opened right on time early in the Spring like they said they were going to.

It seems like Shoot The Rapids delay is really ruining people's lives.

Coaster Krazy said:
Lulz.

Yes, Cedar Point is the ONLY thing thats having problems opening on time. Oh besides Kennywood's Sky Rocket, Holiday World's Timberliners, and of course IOA's Harry Potter world opened right on time early in the Spring like they said they were going to.

It seems like Shoot The Rapids delay is really ruining people's lives.

Skyrocket construction did not start untill almost springtime, The timberliners are a brand new type of rolling stock never before used, and harry potter is 1 million more times advanced than shoot the rapids.

It' not nowhere near ruining my life, but you kind of have to wonder why such a simple ride is having so many issues.

crazy horse said:
but you kind of have to wonder why such a simple ride is having so many issues.

I know why its having so many issues.... the boats didn't fit the flume, and it was an engineering problem. I don't know why so many people are reading so far into it. Eh, I guess everybody has there own niche.

Not that it matters much to me, but I think it is more than the boats just don't fit.

They replaced the boats, and now they are running into other issues.

From what i got they modified the original boats but they still were not working so they decided to get another set of boats.

Coasterkyle said:

I know why its having so many issues.... the boats didn't fit the flume, and it was an engineering problem. I don't know why so many people are reading so far into it. Eh, I guess everybody has there own niche.

So there were zero drainage problems? Or was it more than an "engineering problem?" Like, maybe, multiple problems?

The "it's only an engineering problem" people have no more data to back that up than the "it's a monumental problem" people. And vice versa.

15% of the year gone...and still no StR.

:(

Flying Turns (Knoebels) was designed in the 1920's by engineers using slide rulers and pencils. How long has it taken to recreate in the modern world? 2006-07-08-09-10 (and still not open). I'm hopin' this flume is relatively simple and we'll be shootin' by the end of the month.

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Tuesday June 15th - new Devo album finally comes out! One track is called "Don't Shoot". Hope that isn't a bad omen for this ride....

I really hope this ride is open when I visit in 2 weeks...(June 26-July 2)

Here's my thought, and perhaps why I may give CP a "pass" a lot of the time.

About 5 years ago, when TTD was still in its infancy and giving the park fits on an hourly basis, my wife and I stood in line for our first ride. We waited through breakdown after breakdown, and finally, as the rest of the park was closing around us, there were the mechanics and crew, still doing everything they could to get the ride running for the 50 of us who waited, even though the park was closed. They worked, and worked, even though most of us probably expected an announcement telling us to go home.

But they just kept working, doing everything they could to get us on. That's an experience I have only witnessed at CP. I am not in any way suggesting it does not happen other places, but at other parks I have been to (Busch parks, KI, Six Flags, etc...) this has certainly not been the case. That said, I know TTD was a "special" child from day one.

I don't blame CP for this mix-up...to me it clearly lies with IntaRide, or whatever they call themselves. Someone, somewhere, did not communicate a vital piece of information, and that is why the ride is not being enjoyed.

Now is it CP's fault for continuing to go with Intamin? I suppose, but Intamin has made all of my favorite rides at the park, excluding Magnum...so is that a bad thing?

That's debatable.