I heard that (in regards to the 10,000 hp thing) when they built Dragster, they didn't really know how powerful they'd need to make it, thus they overbuilt, just to be safe. By the time Kingda Ka came out they'd had TTD to study off of and make a more efficient system.
I disagree with this though, because if they have the technology to design a 400 foot tall coaster (all those computer algorithms to factor in Gs and whatnot), I'm sure they would've been able to determine what kind of power they needed.
2008 - Games (Area 3/Scales)
2009 - Games Supervisor
2010 - Season pass holder.
Cpkid, take it easy just a joke.
On the other hand the "space problem" CP hasnt even started to intertwine with there coasters, and if they did start i wouldnt worry,besides most of us will be dead before they run out of room.
*thinks* that would be cool to have 2 coasters intertwine with eachother, that would be somehting different for CP.
Well, how is this extra work attractive? The earth removal leaves a nasty dust. I never gathered I'd see guys operating near Erie and Frontiertown, too! Everyone rudely talks hype. . .I'm scared you'll enact a riot!
;)
You are not the first one to think this, it's just that the topic was discussed probably dozens of pages ago and it got beat to death
.
Sorry! I must've missed that.
Water is involved
R.I.P: The Mayor, Mr. Scott
As far as 500+ foot coaster lifts.... what about a vertical lift?
Definition *** Edited 9/29/2005 3:15:49 AM UTC by SpenceMan01***
Most "mainstream" rides that use vertical lift hills are manufactured by B&M, who has been very clear on their no interest in building excessively large rides.
First off, Im new here
Second off, Why dont they build a giga coaster that starts out near Meanstreak, goes over Camper Village, and goes out over the water?
first off, welcome
second off, CP already has a giga(MF) and it would look a lot like magum (heading out of the park in the same direction.)
*** Edited 9/29/2005 11:38:18 AM UTC by Sarmad***
and going over the water would not really be possible because although it's possible to build it, come winter, lake Erie would destroy pretty much anything built out there.
i think that IF we get a 500 foot coaster (i dout it) it would be an intamin ballcoaster with a definit layout. i also think that cedar point stil trusts intamin. (i don't know why)
Also, in regard to vertical lifts, the safety of such a system isn't nearly up to CP standards, and probably couldn't be used for anything nearly that high. Check back in these forums (around page 30 maybe?) where you can find a pretty lengthy discussion about 500' lift hills and vertical lifts and all that jazz.
EDIT: WHY does everyone hate on Intamin so much?!?!? They build some AMAZING coasters, and just because there are some problems with some of the new technologies implemented, everyone looks past all the accomplishments and focuses on the problems. I'm sorry if this seems harsh, but every day someone has to bash on these guys! I have an idea... before you bash Intamin, ask yourself if YOU could do any better, and back it up with facts.
.
*** Edited 9/29/2005 12:36:49 PM UTC by djDaemon***
Brandon
The problems with Intamin, which I'm not going to rehash, go beyond technology. And, to paraphrase Jeff, you don't have to know how to make a movie before you can have an opinion on it.
I understand that, Walt. But what I don't get is that almost everybody seems to love Intamin's rides - until something breaks. I can understand being frustrated about a malfunction, but to the point where it seems there's nothing but complaints about them, yet people still flock to the queues every morning. Its like people want the advanced, envelope-pushing tech, but can't show any understanding when that tech is imperfect.
Brandon
Grovite18 said:
Most "mainstream" rides that use vertical lift hills are manufactured by B&M, who has been very clear on their no interest in building excessively large rides.
What B&M rides are those? Are you sure you are thinking of the lift and not the drop, as in Oblivion?
I'd rather be in my boat with a drink on the rocks,
than in the drink with a boat on the rocks.
Not true.
"Most" people still love Intamin rides. The frustration comes from the fact that when people ask "why is it broken?" and get the standard CP answer that sounds rather monotone. And I can't blame CP for doing that. Frustration comes from the people who travel from out of state just to drive up to the gate and see a "Dragster will be closed today" sign. I'm willing to be that most of the locals and season pass holders aren't too affected by that.
And when something breaks, people are a lot more understanding than you think. Dragster has and will continue to have mechanical issues, its the nature of the ride. Corkscrew still shuts down on a weekly basis, as do almost all the other rides at one point in time or another. All rides go through it, just some more than others. Frustration is not really reflective of the majority of coaster-riders.
But again, problems go beyond being just being "broke." The seat situation on Millennium Force is a prime example of something that was ultimately brought on by problems Intamin had at other parks.
I think there's been a lot of understanding around here in regards to Top Thrill Dragster.
And why would anyone expect a detailed answer as to why a roller coaster isn't working? When your cable goes out, do you call the cable company and demand to know the technical reasons why there is snow on your television?
Closed topic.