Another Intamin Rocket?

Taer 'em all down and let enthusiasts rebuild the park from scratch! Finally, we'd have a park worth visiting.

Whatever happens next year, I can guarantee one thing: there will be a myriad of complaints.

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Jugga I don't predict any of those rides (and magnum) being removed any time soon. But again I still say were not going to have our awesome beloved magnum forever. Sooner or later that coaster and the rest at CP will die. That being 10-20 years later or longer. Also BS, ID, wildcat are not as rough as magnum can be. At times getting off magnum I hear the average guest saying that was rough.

Now am I saying lets go and raze magnum in 5 years.....no. (Nor am I saying do it to ID, BS, etc). I am saying lets get another hyper airtime whore coaster to compliment magnum. SROS NE has alot of airtime from what I hear and is a great ride. So what's wrong with having alot of coasters like that???

I would be willing to bet alot of people would like a new B&M airtime machine...ala Nitro style then not getting one because we have magnum.

If were talking what ride to remove first, (if one had to leave which none do now) my first choice would be MS. See YA!!! Then the dueling GG woodie would be there. Unless B&M had something better for there.

Raze it all Walt? Hmm, not bad, yeah raze it all.

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Shane,

Whether you know it or not you just explained the most significant reason Disney spent so much money designing and implementing their Fastpass. When you are in line for 2 hours you are not buying food, merchandise, playing arcade games, etc.

On the surfact it looks like a great guest perk but their motives certainly were not pure.

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Well, the tricky part is having the intelligence to pick out the useful stuff from all of the garbage...I'm sorry if you don't qualify.

Also, the Merriam-Webster online dictionary lists the following definition for the word "rumor": talk or opinion widely disseminated with no discernible source.

What the heck dictionary are YOU using?

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Well then I guess that you don't quilify determining the "useful" stuff from the "garbage" either. I can't believe you think that I am not intellegent because I don't speculate by what I read about on the internet, much unlike you.

Why don't you re-read the definition of rumor that you posted. But you're the intelligent one, not me because I was I was using my online poker buddies as a resource of knowledge.

FYI: What you quoted me on, was not even directed toward you. Let me go as Kinzel what is really going on so we can get this whole rumor mess straightend out. I'll let you know what he says. *** Edited 6/30/2004 4:59:59 PM UTC by CurrentlyDownDueTo FillInTheBlank***

I'm sure Dan started this thread aftrer I gave him a call from Hershey. Storm Runner is absolutely amazing. To me it now seems like the possibilities of the "rocket coaster" are now endless. I was there for 2 full days and an evening and the ride never went down except for rain. The line moved just as fast as Dragsters. The airtime at the top is insane and the new elements are smooth as glass. If a park were to want a multi-looper, whether it be CP or anyone else, I do not see why they would not look at the launch instead of a lift hill. If Intamin gets them all to run like Storm Runner did for me, then I'm sure we will see many more rocket coasters.

Magnum is only 15 years old, it is insane to think Magnum will be removed anytime soon. It is as much a fixture of the park as the Blue Streak is, and has as much, if not more, historical significance. That, and it gives a great ride that is loved by millions. It'll be here virtually forever, at least for the rest of my lifetime.

ACE just put up a plague that recognizes Magnum. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE REMOVED!

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raptorman95 said:

I'll tell you what's wrong with wooden coasters. They BLOW. I hate riding rides where my back and neck hurts because of being thrown around like a rag doll.

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Your opinion is, well, yours. You've either never ridden a GOOD wooden coaster, or you're very close-minded. Take a gander at how popular wooden coasters can be -- even within the Cedar Fair chain, good woodies (like Shivering Timbers and Ghostrider) draw the crowds. Mean Streak is NOT a representation of what wood can do.

A good midsized wooden coaster would greatly complement Cedar Point's lineup, providing a ride that's both fun and not too intimidating for the patrons scared of Dragster, Millennium Force, and the like.

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Thonolan said:
Amusement Today listed it as the fourth best in the world in their last poll.

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A high ranking, in itself, does not guarantee a coaster's survival. Witness Kennywood's Steel Phantom.

That said, Magnum isn't going anywhere. The Steel Phantom revamping was one that made good financial sense for the park, and we got a MUCH better ride in the process.

Now if Cedar Point were to buy up some old Arrow looper chassis, let Morgan at them, and put THOSE on Magnum, well that'd be something... :)

And that'd be the end of the people-eating capacity we see on Magnum right now, unfortunately.

While I love the PR trains, I really think that Magnum would lose a lot if it had them. There's just something really characteristic about the mine trains that are on it now. It's almost like they don't belong there but they work well anyway.

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raptorman95 said:
ACE just put up a plague that recognizes Magnum.

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ACE gave Magnum a plague! Is it black plague or bubonic plague? :)

It's the CREEPY TOLEDO PLAGUE! Better watch out for it! I think I am coming down with it myself!

Ohio's had that plague ever since they lost the border war with Michigan.

John

I think that plague means a lot. It's saying a statement. Unless they move it to Michigan Adventures, which I think will never happen, I don't see Magnum going anywhere. Cedar Point is proud of Magnum because of the records it broke and how popular it is today. Like the guy said above it's still rated #4 in Amusement Today. It broke the 200 foot barrier when it opened. So what that now it's a little bumpy. A lot of people like me like a little bumpiness in a coaster. Magnum is staying.

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Walt said:
Finally, we'd have a park worth visiting.

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Are you saying Cedar Point isn't worth visiting? ;)

Maybe the reason magnum is sinking is because of the plague.

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raptorman95 said:
I know that nobody cares about SFMM here but the Amusement Park industry cares. That's what I meant. Sorry for the confusion.

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The industry doesn't care either. From the interview I did with Dick Kinzel back in 2000...

"A lot of people think we put the rides in because of ego, to say we’re the biggest and the best, but that’s not really the truth. The truth is they’re good business decisions to put those rides in, and the timing has to be right."

There you have it. *** Edited 6/30/2004 8:29:38 PM UTC by Jeff***

Here is my idea for Cedar Points new ground breaking idea. An Underwater Coaster through some sort of plexi-glass tunnel. They could have the Station and Queue line just north of the marina with a small bridge over the road leading to it. But of course in order to pay for it the new admission prices would probably double. I know it probably won't happen in my lifetime, but I think It would be cool.

Wow... haven't heard the coaster in the lake idea in at least a year.

:)