Cedar Point 2013

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It will be interesting to see the progression of inversions on this coaster versus what the park has now on its two Beemers.

Part of me would like to see the drop/vertical loop/0-g roll pattern broken up for variety's sake. With that said, the vertical loop on Wild Eagle looks pretty stellar in pictures and video so I certainly wouldn't mind the inclusion of one in the end.

The ride will potentially be an out and back of sorts so I'm anxious to see how they use space at the front of the park for smaller inversions and twisty elements/helices closer to the ground. Earlier rumors suggested a ride built above the midway which I could see paired with an elevated station. Multiple inversions high in the air would certainly tie in with the so-called front-gate statement.

Vertical loops are generally the largest inversion on any coaster. As such, they need the coaster to have as much energy as possible to make it through the loop, which is why they almost always appear immediately after the lift hill.

A vertical loop after a mid course block brake, would have to be shorter than that block, which itself is considerably shorter than the lift hill. This would cause all kinds of engineering problems in order to keep the forces on the riders to a relative minimum.

So, did I miss it, or did everyone just sort of throw there hands up in the air as to the latest "number" clue?

I suppose I should have clarified - I wouldn't mind if a vertical loop was omitted from the design in favor of an enormous dive loop or immelman.

Although at a rumored height of 170+, a large vertical loop is probable after the initial drop.

Kevinj said:
So, did I miss it, or did everyone just sort of throw there hands up in the air as to the latest "number" clue?

Nope...I can't figure it out.

I never said I knew anything about anything...

kylepark said:
Of course Dick knows about it. This new attraction has been planned for a few years now.

...but there's a twist to that story, if I'm to believe what I've heard.

Ralph Wiggum said:

He's still on the Cedar Fair board of directors, he's just not chairman of the board anymore.

I stand corrected.

Jeff said:
...but there's a twist to that story, if I'm to believe what I've heard.

And the plot thickens... haha

I assume the coaster was, in fact, approved by DK. But I also assume that the "front gate statement" is Ouimet's doing.

Although, if the board had yet to approve of it prior to the memo being leaked, all of it could have been substantially redone by MO--otherwise why wouldn't the board have voted on it a year or more ago?

Jeff said:
I never said I knew anything about anything...

...but there's a twist to that story, if I'm to believe what I've heard.

A "twist". Nice Jeff, really nice.

Kevinj said:
So, did I miss it, or did everyone just sort of throw there hands up in the air as to the latest "number" clue?

We pretty much passed it up becasue no one was able to really figure out what it meant..

And Jeff brings up the twist to the story again. :)

You had also mentioned someone on here knows...(aside from you)...

Is it going against the circle of trust policy to divulge a little info about the twist?

And why am I so intrigued?

"And Jeff brings up the twist"

4D coasters twist...

Just sayin' (;

More than anything i hope the ride time is long! Fast coasters are great, so is height, but track length and ride time is where its at.

I want a thrilling EXPERIENCE, not just a wild quickie

If im waiting in line for 2 hours, i better be getting a 3 minute ride at least.

Looking at the presumed area this coaster is gonna fit the bill

NextGen89 said:
I want a thrilling EXPERIENCE, not just a wild quickie

I'm trying my best not to make a comment about this.

I bet you just loved Top Thrill when it opened huh? haha

I think it'll be a decent sized coaster, especially compared to the other Wings out there. It has to travel over to the entrance and back.

I've got it! They're bringing back Pepsi Twist. The first inversion will be named and sponsored like the Nestea Plunge was.

Jesus, you guys read into everything. I used "twist" to mean what it conventionally means, not play games.

So by "Jesus", do you mean the ride will go over the water?

Stop holding info from us. :)

Not only go over water, but turn it into wine.