What Would You (Realistically) Like To See @ Cedar Point in the Future

I like the idea of the GCII out where demon drop is with some of the parking lot area. Granted I'm the first person to raise their hand in support of the 500 footer, but Prowler has been getting great reviews, won't break the bank, and gives us a much needed modern woodie to add to the roster.

I think GCII coasters are great investments... they're relatively cheap, have a small footprint, and 98% of park goers love them! Fast paced enough to keep enthusiasts smiling, yet mild enough for the weak at heart.

That is EXACTLY what CP needs.

That said, I would rather see Gravity Group work their magic and create an intense masterpiece. But I think GCII would be a better fit.

We have a distinct advantage with the lake too. If they do it right that coaster would be very photogenic and provide great views while on the ride if it runs along the beach a little.

Does anyone know if there is some sort of regulation about how close to the lake they can build coasters?

It seems like the beach south of Wicked Twister has been a prime location to build a coaster for years, but they never have.

Kyle2154 said:
We have a distinct advantage with the lake too. If they do it right that coaster would be very photogenic and provide great views while on the ride if it runs along the beach a little.

Just like mean streak.

There is a lot of land behind disaster and twister that can be used. I have been saying this for a while now. A nice intamin pre fab would look great. The pre fab coasters have a very steep lift hill, so it would take up less space than a typical wooden coaster.

Why does everyone want this GCI to start where Demon Drop was and then go to the beach? There is enough room over on the beach to support the entire coaster without using the Demon Drop land and taking away from the parking lot. A twister over there would be great just like the one that use to sit there. Bring back a little history in that area!

^ I think it is more that people suspect it will start where Demon Drop is, than want. That is, people are assuming Demon Drops vacancy will have something to do with getting to the new ride, if not the queue, station, or portions of the ride itself.

99er said:
Why does everyone want this GCI to start where Demon Drop was and then go to the beach?

Because they could.

There is a lot of room back there, but you also have to think about a station, q line, the coaster itself, and other buildings/ maintanance sheds that go along with the ride. I am sure they are going to want a gift shop and photo building as well.

Wooden coasters take up more room than steel coasters do. So with the amount of land they have now(just in back of disaster and twister), I dont think it can be done. The lift hill alone would take up 1/3 of the room back there. Look at this picture of a wooden lift hill as an example.

http://www.rcdb.com/3660.htm?p=18283

With that being said, if they put the station and q area where the Demon used to live, and the lift hill going up tourds the beach where the fence is behind the service area, then they could could put the rest of the coaster back behind twister and disaster and have a bunch of bunny hops going back to the station. Look at the lift and first drop of a plug and play coaster...

http://www.rcdb.com/3183.htm?p=16262

Takes up much less room.

I would imagine that they could not put footers in or really close to the lake, because of freezing issues.

PrawoJazdy said:
Its only a mile from the front of he park to the back add another mile to it and its only 2 miles long. At 80 miles per hour thats over a mile in 1 minute. So realistically at 80mph a ride 3 miles long would be about 3 minutes and thats not bad at all and really, how many people honestly can't handle 3 minutes on a ride.

I think what would be best is to get your mind straight and design this ride on Roller Coaster Tycoon. To have a ride be 3 minutes long and have the pace of 80 mph would have a intense effect on the riders, unless the designer put LSM's everywhere on the ride or there was a very large lift hill. I don't think it makes sense to build a ride this long because it would be very hard on the rider to sit through 3 minutes of the constant speed of 80 mph.

On to a different topic, I wish the park could work on the landscaping by the space spiral. It is absolutely horrible when there is no shade in that area. The landscaping in the park is very bland and needs to look at Busch Gardens for some help. Would there ever be a possibility to demolish the arcade building and add a fresh ride or possibly roller coaster or log flume? One of the car rides in the front of the park has to go. A great roller coaster could fit in one of the areas.

I think Cedar Point should invest in a wooden coaster like Voyage. The supports are steel and the track is wood. You can do more elements such as the 90 degree turns which are awesome on Voyage. Can you imagine if Mean Streak was re-done like Voyage? Man that would make Mean Streak one cool coaster. It's a nice dream thought, but we'll have to see what Cedar Point has up they're sleeves for 2011. I'm hoping a wooden coaster or floorless coaster goes up front where demon drop was located.

^ I love the idea of Voyage on Mean Streak. It would be amazing if they increased the lift height and took advantage of the big open spot in the middle of the structure by increasing the rid length!

@coolkid2345:

The ride does not have to maintain a pace of 80mph it was . Its all hypothetical at this point anyway and with extra elements, such as airtime, you can maintain a speed high enough to keep the train moving. What I don't understand is the "rider would not be able to stand the ride for 3 minutes." argument.

Back in the early days of the automobile everyone thought a human travelling over 50 mph would go crazy from the speed or the human body would shut down. Obviously today we travel at average speeds of 70mph on freeways (sorry, Ohio), now you have a windscreen, and shocks, so you don't feel that intensity that you might on a coaster, but if most don't feel tired/sick/hurt from a 2 minute ride on Milennium Force, an extra minute or two isn't going to be any different.

What about the Gemini fundraiser that happened recently. Some failed and got off as early but most made it and consistently rode Gemini over an entire day. If they can do that, then most can ride a roller coaster for over 3 minutes. There is no real hard data to suggest otherwise. The funny part is, other than suggesting a ride at 80mph would be able to complete the circuit in such an amount of time, I never said that the ride had to be intense. Just as we saw with Maverick that a ride doesn't have to be 300' to be good, a ride doesn't need to be 80mph. I think it was those stirring the pot that made those suggestions for themselves and created problems out of nothing.

Back in the '80s,spending $20,000,000 on a roller coaster was also a ridiculous idea, Cedar Point has built 4 in the last ten years that cost over $20,000,000 and as each year passes, they will continue to get more expensive, especially the more complex they get.

It is an idea and some here are taking it in the wrongest way possible or just looking for a reason to argue.

@ Shawn. A hybrid wooden coaster would be amazing and I would like to see one just about anywhere in the park.

PrawoJazdy said: I never said that the ride had to be intense.

I think people figured you meant intense since you stated you wanted a circuit that would basically travel the entire park. In order to do this you would need a very high lift or a lot of launch sections, both of which equals intense to me. Unless of course the launch sections are not fast, but at that point you are pretty much building a monorail.

Far from it. Mine Ride is slower than Disney's monorail. Does that make it a monorail?

Good Lord it was a joke. Why do you take everyone's posts so seriously?

Well you have said it twice. Jokes that are funny usually don't needrepeating to the same person.

Why can't we all just chill out and get a long?

You have to admit you can see both side of the argument at least a little. No matter how outlandish they may or may not be.

Here is how I would use the space:

A GCII with station/transfer house/queue line/brake run in the former Demon Drop lot (spill over into parking lot if need be, but shouldn't be a whole lot)

Lift hill straddles the line between the parking lot and the operations buildings there.

Twisting dive onto the beach that curves north towards twister. it does a turn around just by the stadium, then goes back towards the first drop, crossing over & under the out track. It goes a little ways south of the lift hill along the beach into a spaghetti bowl. It then follows the lift hill back across the parking lot, doing bunny hills along the way.

I drew up a simple design, but i dont know how to upolad pictures onto here... any help?

99er, I totally agree with you. I (and multiple riding partners) would get very ill if i had to stay on a ride with a very intense speed maintained over 3 minutes.

PointofView said:
First, repainting the Iron Dragon track. I remember it when it had red track and white support. But then they made the supports orange, and the colors don't fit. I say keep the supports orange, but make the track a metallic iron color. Orange = fire, metallic = iron. It fits the name better. (Assuming, of course, that ID isn't torn down after 2012).

Second, relocating Space Spiral. The space needle has always been there, even after the Giant Wheel was moved in 2000. Given their proximity, why bother riding the needle? Perhaps it could be relocated closer to MF, perhaps on MF Island near STR. Its footprint is tiny, so it shouldn't be too much trouble.

First of all, Iron Dragon got fully repainted if I am not mistaking. They would not repaint an entire ride because it just got re-painted. Arrow Coasters seem to hold their paint jobs really long and look great for at least 15 years. Why would Iron Dragon be closing? It is one of the most popular rides at the park.

Secondly, Space spiral would be a very hard ride to relocate because its structure goes 40 feet underground. That would be a true mess to move.