Were going in a whole new direction idea

I don´t think that a minor tunnel on the ride would spawn the sign "We´re going in a whole new direction". I guess we´ll have to wait and see.

My apologies redsox, you are correct it's a penninsula not an island. I have only been to the park once and that was two years ago because I live 12 hours away and don't get to take many trips due to financial situation. I do know a lot about the park and am making a second trip out there in September.

A sump pump might be enough to keep any water that would collect in a tunnel at Cedar Point out and the ride operating if it were done correctly.

What about a train diving right into a tunnel in the middle of the lagoon. some sort of clear composite to really give the underwarer feel (like those shark aquariums you walk under)

It would be cool and could be done for a price.

But Cedar Point won't be going to all the expense of tunneling underground. In fact I don't think any of those "underground" coasters have tunnels that were actually "tunneled out". They just dug a big hole laid the track with the cement tunnel around it and filled the dirt back in. They didn't boar out a tunnel....that would be way to expensive.

Plus wouldn't there still have to be some sort of footer under the tunnel to properly distribute force?

I am pretty sure that Oblivon at Alton Towers in the UK had to be boared out. I have never seen the inside of the tunnel, but the top of the coaster is above ground at only 65 feet high. They then drop it 180 feet. That would require boaring out a tunnel. Also yeah, there would have to be supports underneath. It could be done, but then once again, it would be really really expensive and may not be worth the hassle for only a small section of the coaster.

http://rcdb.com/qs.htm?quicksearch=Oblivion

Now heres my big question... Whats the difference between dropping on the first hill into a tunnel that is underground, and dropping into a tunnel that is built above the ground? essentially you could create the exact same thing by dumping dirt rather than digging dirt for way way cheaper.

But honestly I dont think many people (including myself) think that "going in a new direction" has anything to do with underground, or above ground tunnels for that matter. Keep in mind these signs are not there to tease the handful of coaster enthusiasts. They are there to intrigue the general public. So start thinking more literally. I think it has something to do with actual direction... Maybe parts that go sideways?? or Backwards?

Canada4CP said:
What about a train diving right into a tunnel in the middle of the lagoon. some sort of clear composite to really give the underwarer feel (like those shark aquariums you walk under)

It would be cool and could be done for a price.

There is no way this is likely. For one the lagoon isnt that clear. Two, alge and other plant life would grow on this clear surface, making it rather inconvenient to see anything. Three, Watterproofign a tube that runs through the water, while vibrating from passing trains is just a maintainence nightmare. I dont know why i keep seeing this clear tunnel idea on these boards, because every time something is built this idea seems to keep popping up.

I think that the average depth of the lagoons is about 3 feet.

There wouldn't be any need to waterproof any clear tubing as there would probably be none to waterproof...not that the water is clear enough to see through anyways. :)

http://coasterbuzz.com/rollercoasterphoto.htm?i=173

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Hell, I can't keep my WALKOUT basement from leaking, and I'm no where close to water!

I'd be willing to put a few beers on that we won't see an underground tunnel any time soon (if so, I'm going to get into the sump pump/bentonite business). Now above ground... :)

Just remember sports fans, some of us haven't been to the Point even ONCE this year....so a "new ride" isn't the first thing on our mind ... we just want to get there and ride something ;)

going backwards for part of the ride would be awesome, but It would not really be going in a whole new direction because Wicked already go backwards. And "Going in a WHOLE NEW Direction" sounds to me like something that they have not yet done at all. IMO.

Peace, mikey

Well, they haven't exactly gone backwards yet, upside-down.

Oh and for the last time, forget all this dive tower, underground crap ... the new ride is none of that.

thats true, oh $h!t that would be insane. LOL

Canada4CP said:
What about a train diving right into a tunnel in the middle of the lagoon. some sort of clear composite to really give the underwarer feel (like those shark aquariums you walk under)

It would be cool and could be done for a price.

Given the clarity of Lake Erie water, I doubt you would be able to see much.

Oops. Steve4Hockey, didn't mean to repeat you.
*** Edited 6/29/2006 1:26:37 AM UTC by Ensign Smith***

CPFan2004 said:
Hell, I can't keep my WALKOUT basement from leaking, and I'm no where close to water!

I know it's off-topic, but have you tried re-profiling your landscaping so the soil slopes away from the house? This tends to eliminate 90% of basement leaks. Just something I actually know a little about. :)

Hey guys I'm new

love the point!!!!

I have been following the threads and live in Toledo....can a lot of the digging be because of the fact that CP was dumped with rain?

I wouldn't think they would put part of the ride underwater. It would cost too much and it would be very hard to do. If you've been to the point and look around you notice that there's only about a few feet between the ground and the water and just to put the footers in for the new ride it requires pumping out water. When I was there they were pumping a lot of water out.

Maybe this underground tunnel is what Mr. Scott is referring to about the ride involving water!;)
*** Edited 6/29/2006 10:55:32 AM UTC by ToddJ***

So, where's the underground tunnel they're building? Logic would suggest that IF they were doing this, a whole would quite likely already exist, as such a project would require a considerable amount of time to complete.

Come on now....since when does logic apply to project 2007 ;)

I do not believe an underground tunnel will be involved. I still DO believe that water will be involved with this ride...in some way.

MrScott