Were going in a whole new direction idea

I don't know much about the land of CP, but what would be the possiblity of this "were going in a whole new direction" be they are going underground? Kind of like Oblivion at Alton Towers. Maybe not the same type of coaster. I don't know if this is even possible seeing that CP is an island. They already have broken records for being the tallest. (even though they no longer hold it.) So what about being the coaster that goes the furthest down underground? Or just the first one they have that goes underground?

NOt sure by the idea of what you mean by the coaster that goes underground...you can see all the supports above ground so it's not going to be completely under the ground but this coaster if it were to go underground wouldn't be the first...

http://www.coastergallery.com/2001/T35.html

Titan at SFOT is an example...

I guess you could say i'm a little confused on ur definition of an "underground" roller coaster, but with some clarification i think i would approve of the "whole new direction" theory...

I think he's just talking about a portion (like the bottom of the first drop) going underground. He didn't say it would be the first, just the first at the point.

The high water table would make this a pretty cost prohibitive undertaking. I have no doubt it could be done, but the cost to ensure that the tunnel will not leak would be pretty steep. Secondly, with Intamin designing it, I wouldn't count on them to guarantee anything. And it would need a tunnel guaranteed to not leak.

And long before Titan, The Beast went underground. Its nothing new.

Ok, I know there are other parks that have coasters that go underground, but CP does not have any. I don't mean the whole coaster goes underground. I see the obvious footers and above ground supports in the staging area, but what is the possibility of a portion of it being underground to go with the new direction sign.

Sorry about that Cameron...i just misunderstood what you were saying. As cool as I think it would be, i just don't see it happening, especially after hearing jugga talk about the high water table. Not saying it won't happen but it sounds like there is a good possibility that it won't happen.

I know we've said this in previous posts but my idea is that the "whole new direction" might have to do with the trains??? Just a thought.

What would happen if thier was a cave in?

Don't worry about it Baseball. I wasn't saying that was my theory, but I wasn't sure if it was possible because of CP being an island. Doesn't sound like it is very plausible. My only other theorys for this would be 4 dimension, or flying, but based on the track we've seen it doesn't look possible for either one of those. Especially a fourth dimension like "X"

Well, the hope would be if it did go underground that it would be constructed well enough so as to not cave in. The Detroit-Windsor tunnel hasn't caved in. The tunnels on Beast haven't caved in. Thats not my worry. My worry is about leaks, one leak comes through and the entire ride would be shut down. I'm not saying it couldn't be done, just that it would cost more than it is really worth (to me anyway) to do it. I'd rather they just stay above ground.

The Beast has 3 Under Ground Tunnels

First Tunnel After first Drop - http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/pkiguy1/detail?.dir=aff2re2&.dnm=7b55re2.jpg&.src=ph

Second / Thrid http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/pkiguy1/detail?.dir=aff2re2&.dnm=9298re2.jpg&.src=ph

The Tunnels look very strong because cement. So how would it cave in when there not very deep?

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CP isn't an island it's on a penninsula.

Don't dismiss the underground theory so flippantly. I work at a company that manufactures waterproofing, among other things, and I can tell you that architecturally it's not that difficult to keep a tunnel leak-free. Even if there were leaks, a well-placed sump pump or two could take care of anything short of a total failure. And don't even worry about a cave-in; there are tunnels around the world that are miles long and many hundreds, if not thousands, of feet below ground.

I'm not saying this is what's going in, only that it's completely plausible. It certainly would be a rush to ride a coaster at CP that went underground.

It is not a dive tower ride.

Its not a B&M dive tower. Doesn't mean Intamin doesn't have something similar in the works (although I hope not).

Nope.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/buildingbig/tunnel/basics.html

If they can build tunnels under lakes and oceans then they can build tunnels underground with out leaking wherever it is. Even by lake erie.

Isn't there a underwater tunnel in Michigan?
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If you build it they will come! If you don't, they will still come!

Channel Tunnel in England/France goes under the English Channel.

The difference is that none of those tunnels (including the Detroit/Windsor tunnel) go through water. They go UNDER it, through the bedrock that is under the lake/river/ocean bottom. To build a tunnel into the CP land, you wouldn't be going under the water, you'd be going right through the water table.

Jugga hit it right on. Still that wouldn't be a bad idea. I like the idea of a tunnel(underground), but I would say that a whole new direction isnt about going underground.

JuggaLotus said: with Intamin designing it, I wouldn't count on them to guarantee anything. And it would need a tunnel guaranteed to not leak

Im pretty sure Intamin would not be the company designing the tunnel if it were to have one. Coaster companies tend to stick to the mechanical and electrical asspect of the ride. Most other work, including theming, landscaping, site prep, surveying, soil anylasis, and sometimes footer design is done by an outside source. I believe B&M even have theyre track manufactured by an independant contractor.