Update: July 25

Then how is it going to enter the other side? http://www.pointbuzz.com/Gallery.aspx?i=4475

IMO, Cant be a lift or launch. The way the footers are situated at that end, I dont see how it could be a lift, or how it could be a turn from a launch. It's just to tight of a turn to be for a launch. And the spacing is too small to suggest a lift.

TTD 120mph, I was thinking that those footers are on the way back, similar to how the MF makes that last turn when it comes back.

Exit English, Do you think it'll be more like the launch of the Wicked Twister or the TTD? Aren't those different launch systems?

Or maybe they have a new system that doesn't require a lot of room...

At least WT and TTD are thrilling. I for one can nap on MF.

NO! I love the Millennium Force!

I really believe that the transfer track idea is the best and most plausable. Where the launch/breakrun is where the transfer track would be. It would come up the slope while going into the breaks at the same time coming to a complete stop. Then the transfer track would move and the train would launch bacwards. You could have and outdoor, taller, and faster Revenge of the Mummy like at both Universal parks in the U.S. I have ridden on both of these coasters, and while the West coast version doesn't even compare to the East coast version, they are both absolutely amazing coasters. This could also make the coaster much longer because after each transfer track launch it would pick up more momentum.

I can see it now:

WORLDS LONGEST COASTER, CP's new direction.

Hey, I was looking at pictures from the TTD & I just had a question: On the TTD, the launch part, the footers aren't as close as this new one. What could that mean if this is a launch?

http://www.pointbuzz.com/gallery.aspx?i=4460

That's why I keep thinking that it's a new kind of launch system. I haven't seen the footers that close....

And, if it's a transfer track, it doesn't seem to line up from how the pictures are.

Edit: The camera angle really plays with the eyes a bit.

*** Edited 7/26/2006 9:05:23 PM UTC by Little Leslie***

It's a brake run right after a high speed turn. Wildcat comes to mind, they will just have an op stand out there reminding you to put your arms out to hold on, so you don't smash your face.

The spacing of the supports doesent mean a thing. As has been said before the thing that dictates the spacing between supports is the strength of the track. If they use Box track like TTD then the supports can have more spacing. If they use triangle track, less spacing, and if this section will use flat 2 rail track, then the supports will be even closer together. I believe this section is the brake run because i have already seen 2 rail track in breakers express with slots to attatch brake fins. Makes sense to put the support sup first for the areas where you already have the track on site. We probably wont see anything for the launch/lift because those track pieces arent here yet. Just a thought...

http://www.pointbuzz.com/Gallery.aspx?i=4418

If you look at this picture the theory I stated makes sense. Track could go up the left side of the footers start to incline on the slope come to a complete stop while the transfer track moves. Then the train would launch down the slope amd head to the right side of the footers. so it would come in left leave right, or come in right leave left. So I beleive this "section" is both brakes and a launch.

EDIT: this makes sense for the the track at breakers seen with slots for break fins too.
*** Edited 7/26/2006 9:21:39 PM UTC by CDCP***

Hydraulic launches can only be done with box track for the brakes. (I.E. room to retrack on TTD) Also I thought of something, a launch can only be so intense before it becomes unsafe not in forces but in terms of rolling back. The launch run must be long enough for the train to get up to speed but also long enough to slow the train down incase of a rollback. And that would be a very short launch run. Also, where would the launch building go, I noticed that too. We won't know what it is until the tell tale track piece shows up.

Please somebody tell me where the loading station and brake run/safeties would be IF those supports are for a launch?

Great update Walt! It was nice meeting you yesterday, and Happy Birthday to Cameron! :)

Those are much, much steeper than TTD's... I don't even think a rocket could launch that steep.

I just got back from the park a little bit ago, pretty busy and matters were't helped with Dragster not eating up people.

Anyway, spent a little time looking at the construction site for my first time in a couple weeks. Not sure if this has been touched on but the thing someone said about the inclining/declining supports starting to rise again after bottoming out appears to just be an illusion. The ground is all dug up with more of the cement column showing creating the illusion of a taller support. I couldn't absolutely verify this as I left my surveying equipment at home...:)

First hand, it looks like the declining supports are going to be for a brake run knifing through the supports for a lift hill. Someone else mentioned that the larger round footings on either side of the declining supports become further and futher spaced apart as they go towards the swan boat pond. This is very apparent in person and I think they were on the right track predicting the lift to be there.

It was nice meeting you as well, Doug. Cam had fun, but he slept good. :)

LoganB said:
Anyway, spent a little time looking at the construction site for my first time in a couple weeks. Not sure if this has been touched on but the thing someone said about the inclining/declining supports starting to rise again after bottoming out appears to just be an illusion. The ground is all dug up with more of the cement column showing creating the illusion of a taller support.

Take a look here:
http://www.pointbuzz.com/midwayvision/project2007mv41.jpg

It's a gradual increase in the last support or two, but it is definitely there.

I double-checked the photos I took yesterday, and from 2 different angles, it is quite evident that they do indeed get taller. Only slightly, but it's quite evident.

I'm not saying that it will or won't be a brake-run, launch, station, etc, in this area, just pointing something out. *** Edited 7/27/2006 12:54:45 AM UTC by DBCP***

LoganB said:

First hand, it looks like the declining supports are going to be for a brake run knifing through the supports for a lift hill. Someone else mentioned that the larger round footings on either side of the declining supports become further and futher spaced apart as they go towards the swan boat pond. This is very apparent in person and I think they were on the right track predicting the lift to be there.

BirdOfPrey00 said: (IN THE JULY 22-23 UPDATE THREAD)
I do believe that there will be a lift hill based on what I saw yesterday July 23 at the park. Look at the orientation for the large footers here:

http://www.pointbuzz.com/midwayvision/project2007mv34.jpg

They get further and further apart from each other as they get further away from the WWL station area.

http://www.pointbuzz.com/Gallery.aspx?i=3804

Even if its not for a lift, I do believe that is where the highest point of the ride will be. And it will be done with A-Frame supports.

Also, I think that the strait vertical supports that are running down between the large footers are for the brake-run which will run under cross supports for the lift hill which would make for some nice "head chopping" effects.

Im still new here... but Today I went to the park and got some new shots.. nice ones. How do I get them to Walt?

I don't claim to know much but I think BirdOfPrey00 is on to it. After rolling out of the old WWL station, I think we'll see a lift (these so-called A-Frame supports) with a diving turn towards the water.

See for yourself:
Here

I think BirdOfPrey00 is also on the money by saying our brake run will run under the lift structure. Everything inbetween...well, appears to be that sidewinding low riding coaster track.

We'll just have to wait and see next May!
*** Edited 7/27/2006 2:05:35 AM UTC by CPFan2004***

BGRooDoG said:
Im still new here... but Today I went to the park and got some new shots.. nice ones. How do I get them to Walt?

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