TTD RECORD OFFICALLY TO BE BROKEN!!!!!

The definition of Six Flags is class? Class answers: Its where they take original ideas tweek them and call them there own. Good class you all get a 100!

good way to put it

won't everyone out there be discusted next year when we see the TTD, I mean KK on all the SF television adds?

well maybe i dont see too many SF adds on TV but when Discovery does Extreme Rides 2005 & KK is on there "Well we have seen this coaster before, it has just been painted for the new season, & transported to a Six Flags park"

OK, I Don't know if you guys know how parks like SF and CF work... they go to the ride manufactures, give them a budget, and there objectives, Then the ride manufacture comes back with the design. SF didn't draw up TTD 36 feet taller, and a bunny hop and then take it to Intamin and say "How much" that simply isn't the way it works. SF didn't steal CP's idea, it ISN'T THERE'S! It is intamins! So, if you want to blame anyone for replicating TTD's design blame Intamin!

And when ER 05' is done on our coaster, they are going to talk it up "Blasting from 0-128 in 3.5 seconds Kingda Ka is the tallest, fastest coaster in the world! It shoots up a 456' tower to then plummet 419 feet toward the ground before you pull back up into an airtime hill that gives 2.5 extra seconds of airtime before entering the brakes Cut to riders explaining how awesome it is cut to SF rep talking about KK, then possibly to an enthusiast, who explains how much better KK is from TTD cut to TTD footage, explaining the similarities, and the differences, then "Are you ready to take a front seat ride on KK?" Cut to "Hi I'm ____ and I'm going to take you on a ride on KK here at SF Gadv in Jackson New Jersey... goes through the ride, explaining it, brakes, another enthusiast talk, then, end of segment.

It's funny that you guys are so quick to jump on six flags for not smashing the records. How quickly you forget that TTD only beat the height record by 5 feet! Superman the Escape is 415 feet tall, and is considered a roller coaster by almost anyone who isn't a CP fanboy. KK beat ttd's record by 36 feet, more than 7 times what TTD did. So stop hatin on six flags when it actually does somethin great for its customers.

Also i just wanted to point out that WT isn't a complete circuit either, so if you guys decide to ignore the fact that Superman is a coaster than you might as well ignore WT completely.

Are you kidding? CP had a big part in the design of TTD. CF basically hired Intamin to come out with a new launch system that could handle the job of launching trains to speeds of 120mph. The hydraulic launch was on the drawing boards or in the very early stages of testing when CF approached them to make Xcelerator and TTD.

Now SF clearly wanted to have the record of the tallest and fastest coaster so they called Intamin and asked them to make them a rocket coaster. A ride that goes 120+mph is limited to what it can do. Turns would be brutle at those kinds of speeds. Loops and twist would be the same. Track layouts must be short and sweet on these rides.

You have to ask yourself though? What can you do, SF is getting the record and CP lost it? What can you do?

Read it with me:

NOTHING *** Edited 10/8/2004 1:41:18 AM UTC by Gomez***

Name calling removed... *** Edited 10/8/2004 8:01:02 PM UTC by Jeff***

perculata said:
How quickly you forget that TTD only beat the height record by 5 feet! Superman the Escape is 415 feet tall, and is considered a roller coaster by almost anyone who isn't a CP fanboy.

Superman: The Escape may be 415', but it really only reaches about 350'. It doesn't have enough speed to reach the 415' mark. TTD really beat Superman by 70'.

Huggy Bear said:

Superman: The Escape may be 415', but it really only reaches about 350'. It doesn't have enough speed to reach the 415' mark. TTD really beat Superman by 70'.

You're right Huggy, Superman: The Escape is a joke, lately it barely gets half way up the tower, not even reaching 200 ft.

That proves it, you don't know what ride companies do. CF had maybe .01% input on design, CF gave them the objective, a record breaker, the footprint, and then told Intamin to go to work. I would be willing to bet they wanted to make one like S;TE but intamin persuaded them to do a hydraulic launch so they can test the limits of the technology.Tecnically they did only break the record by 5 feet, it does have the power to get all the way up to the top, they just don't use all the power, because it would mean even more brake downs. I don't get why you guys are so mad that CP got it's record taken away "so quick" CF is no stranger to getting there records broken quick! Seriously, contact any ride manufactures, they will even tell you that they get a list of objectives, and then they take over from there. And BTW, they probably had dry ink on the contract before TTD's design was even revealed, my guess, they caught wind CF was getting a new coaster by intamin, they contacted them before even shipping supports, let alone track, gave objectives, taller then CP's coaster, faster, and then the budget, signed the contract, then, while shipping parts to CP, they were working on making KK, then, after that, they got there plans approved by SF, and then they started making the track, before TTD was even tracked.

And you know all of this how?

Yes, we are all "so mad"! Just for that I refuse to ever visit that small coaster park again!

SFcoasterguy: So why are you even on a CP enthusiast site if you have such a preference for SF? Gee and you joined this site right around the time KK was announced, very clever! *** Edited 10/8/2004 9:21:45 PM UTC by DemonDroppin'***

But the height of the coaster is what I am talking about, not the height of the drop. Technically TTd only beat superman by 5 feet. The height of the drop is a totally different category. You people shouldn't start arguments when you're ignorant to what you are arguing about.

So you think it's fair to build a ride with a 400 ft. + tower but during the ride, you never actually even come near that height... makes sense. So I guess a TTD rollback equates to an actual ride on STE, especially when the train only reaches half way up the tower. Don't get me wrong, I used to be STE's biggest fan, but since since SF stopped running the ride to it's fullest power, (according to SFcoasterguy) it's not even worth wasting your time, especially when 95% of the time only one side is running. *** Edited 10/8/2004 10:39:58 PM UTC by DemonDroppin'***

SFcoasterguy said:
That proves it, you don't know what ride companies do. CF had maybe .01% input on design, CF gave them the objective, a record breaker, the footprint, and then told Intamin to go to work. I would be willing to bet they wanted to make one like S;TE but intamin persuaded them to do a hydraulic launch so they can test the limits of the technology.Tecnically they did only break the record by 5 feet, it does have the power to get all the way up to the top, they just don't use all the power, because it would mean even more brake downs.

uhhh????? that means SF will need to use more power to get KK trains up that hill, well thats silly why would SF do that if SFGoasterGuy says it will break down more, & and another thing, SFGoasterguy says well "I dont know what im talking about, so ill just Guess at things"

I always remembered it otherwise, I know on "Extreme Rides 2003 Monty Jasper specificaly said that CP didnt have much space, so they used hydraulics, because it could get them up to the speed they needed in the shortest amount of launch track, yeah that was it, CP was never going to use magnets,

pretty sure that CP had say in more then .01% of the design on there biggest project ever...

SFcoasterguy said:
I would be willing to bet they wanted to make one like S;TE but intamin persuaded them to do a hydraulic launch so they can test the limits of the technology.

The hydraulic launch was fairly new when TTD was designed. CP even stated that they needed to find a type of launch system that would fit into the park. They may have thought about S:TE's launch system, but knew it wouldn't fit into the park. TTD is really Cedar Fair's own design. They cloned Xcelerator, but doubled it's height and removed the over-banked turns.

Demondrop, so basically what you said is that I'm right but you just don't wana face reality?

:), i love when I'm right.

SFcoasterguy said:
That proves it, you don't know what ride companies do.

Says the kid that doesn't know any more than anyone else...

SFCoasterGuy should probably just go back to his Gadv.com Forums, all he's here to do is start problems