TTD RECORD OFFICALLY TO BE BROKEN!!!!!

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TTDsam said:
How can you not want taller and faster.
Because I've been on enough coasters to know that neither is a significant factor in building a fun ride. See: Talon, The Legend, Apollo's Chariot, Exterminator, etc.


MrScott said:
Could this be a reason why SF sold Geauga Lake/Sea World? To help pay for this thing?
Yeah, selling the park at a loss equal to five or six times the cost of this one ride would make perfect sense.

As for the rest of you... get over it. I doubt very much that the park's executives are huddled in the corner of the rest room in the fetal position crying their eyes out or worried that it makes them look less manly. The existence of a bigger ride does not make anything at Cedar Point less fun. This kind of stupidity is what gives CP fanboys a bad name.


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Thank you, Jeff.

Walt, nearly every post in a messageboard is pointless. There's no bickering going on, just a bunch of disappointed fans having a knee jerk reaction and a few other people trying to keep CP fans on this site from looking like poor sports about it. You can stifle it if you want, I guess. *** Edited 9/30/2004 4:12:12 PM UTC by Anon***

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This coming from someone who signed up specifically to bicker with a vocal few in this thread. Welcome to PointBuzz!


nearly every post in a messageboard is pointless

That may be true at some message boards, but not here. If you look around other amusement park web sites, I think you'll find the quality of discussion here is much better. We run a tight ship, keeping things on target - and 99% of our members appreciate that. Stick around for awhile and you'll see we don't stifle for the sake of stifling.


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Yeah Jeff! Fun is fun! We don't have a rocket in our park now we do, it is hardy about records, and those ads, and that invitation is just to get the GP hyped. This entire project is one of the biggest things happening to SF ever... next year will be the BEST year yet! It WILL have better customer service, have a more pleasing atmosphere, more family areas, cleaner, better landscaped, and rides that run! They are not going to be spending over 40 million on this park and do nothing about ride maintenance, They have the bait, they just need the "switch" for people who prefer CP, DP or HP. They know it, and they are doing there best to make the 05' year the best year for investors, guests, and employees. I trust them... They will do it! Yeah, that was a typo, the drop is 419 lol
sorry CurrentlyDownDueTo FillInTheBlank , my bad a typo, Millennium Force stands @ 310feet tall...
This coming from someone who signed up specifically to bicker with a vocal few in this thread. Welcome to PointBuzz!

OK, so vocally disagreeing with members of this website is "bickering." Got it. Nice usage of circular logic.

That may be true at some message boards, but not here.

Oh yes, I'm sure this is the exception.

I dunno, I guess when I think of discussion boards, I think of people discussing things and getting into arguments and things, disagreeing and interacting, not moderators who come in and threaten to close down an account or stop an on-topic discussion.

We run a tight ship, keeping things on target - and 99% of our members appreciate that.

I occasionally visit an amusement park messageboard, and that was where I learned of the new ride. I surfed over here just to see what fans of my favorite park were saying, and it was garbage like that. Yeah, I registered just to try to make fans of CP not look like a bunch of asses who will say totally idiotic statements to try to discredit the ride because it's at Six Flags. It's funny you decided to warn me for promoting a little objectivity over rabid fanboyism.

I think you'll find the quality of discussion here is much better. We run a tight ship

Interesting conversation is being able to present an argument to a forum without being warned by a moderator about bickering when you're not even trolling.

We run a tight ship

If by that you mean "not vocally disagree with posts that are rabidly pro-CP," then I guess so. My experience here is limited to two days worth, but having already been warned, that's the impression that I got. Good conversations aren't run on "Tight ships." In an internet forum (and I've been surfing and writing them for about 10 years now) that says it runs a "tight ship" usually means it's over-moderated. To each their own, but don't confuse policing conversations with good moderation.

Stick around for awhile

No thanks, I feel like I've wasted enough time here. I like to have two-sided conversations that you apparently label as bickering, and I suppose I shouldn't have expected that from a Cedar Point fansite's forums. I'll head back over to the CP fans on the more objective forums, thanks.

This new ride does not really make me go WOW!!! It is only 36 feet taller first off, and secondly, TTD has reached 128 mph before. I was there on a night when the cable broke. They launched the train twice and it did not make it over the hill. So it's like they cranked up the juice and let it rip for the final time. Reached a speed of 129 mph!!! No big whoop. I can't wait until Cedar Point builds a ride to outdo this one, not necessarily faster or taller, but just more fun. Make a millenium force with even more added to it.
We'll see the response of Cedar Point probably next year
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Anon: You're free to go elsewhere. We won't be hurt. After six years, our moderation policy works, and that's why this is the most popular CP fan site there is. Ditto for the popularity of CoasterBuzz on a more general enthusiast scale. I don't care if people don't like it and I won't be apologetic about it. It works, and it draws in more people than the vocal minority that don't like it.

We don't care if people disagree or discuss. When they get stupid toward each other, we step in and put a stop to it. If you don't like that, as I said, move along.


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I don't really care what CP does for next season. Honestly, I would like to see something break 500 ft., but I would also like to see a B&M Hyper, Floorless, or Flyer.
I don't care that CP won't have the "tallest & fastest" record anymore. There's plenty of things that CP can do to improve the experience there without having a record breaking coaster (improve variety and quality of in-park food locations, remove and replace old, less-patronized rides with rides based on new technology & perhaps lower prices throughout the park- a few things that come to mind). Also, on the "ride" tip, TTD was great the first couple of times I rode it, but even this next "version" at SFGA isn't anything more than TTD with an "airtime" hill before the brake run. If any other parks plan on installing one of these "rocket" coasters, and aren't cramped for space, do yourself a favor... add several more elements (second tophat, overbanked turns, tunnels (above or below ground), "airtime" hills and/or any ot the aforementioned elements out over water!) and really set yourself apart from these "2-trick" ponies!
I just did a little thinking. I know it has been talked about that the track may be higher off the ground on this ride. I think this is right, because an extra 8mph for a whole 36 feet doesn't seem like enough to get it over the extra footage.

Huggy Bear said:
Just to point out some flaws in this rumor. TTD has trouble making it over 420 ft. with 122 mph. What makes you think 128 will make it over 456 ft.? To add onto that 129 ft. hill at the end. MF has a hill similar to that and it flys over it at 93 mph, are they really going to send you over that hill at 128 mph? That's suicide!

Dragster is listed at 120 but clocks as high as 127. I'm sure this one will have so "play room" as well compared to the listed speed.

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As people have pointed out time and time again over the last two years, gravity and speed are not proportional in a one-to-one ratio. If that were true, Magnum would be 72 mph and therefore Dragster would be 144 mph.

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Eight miles an hour is a lot. Don't believe me? Get in your car and run into a tree at 8 mph and after you pick your teeth out of the steering wheel you will agree.

It is somewhat sad that we are loosing the title but I will still travel 16 hours to go to the point.

Something I have thought about, are we going to be able to go much faster without some type of eye protection?


SFcoasterguy said:
It WILL have better customer service, have a more pleasing atmosphere, more family areas, cleaner, better landscaped, and rides that run! They are not going to be spending over 40 million on this park and do nothing about ride maintenance, They have the bait, they just need the "switch" for people who prefer CP, DP or HP.

Let's just wait and see what happens. I'm not a total CP freak but SF has done nothing to impress me, EVER. If all that happens good for them. I'd hate to see SF go out of business and all of us lose the coasters they have. SF does have a bad track record and this is their oppertunity to change that. BUT until that happens, I dont believe a word you said.

Oh, and you guys are making fun of us getting the same layout as TTD pretty much... If you get a floorless, I would be willing to bet it will have pretty much the same layout as Medusa!

SF Has really surprised me with these new plans! I honestly thought this would be a parking lot coaster, with nothing else around it! They surprised me with the tiger exhibit where it is placed and what it will look like, they surprised me with the kid's section, water fountains, landscaping, and just the overall look of the entire project! I also have heard directly from Six flags (got some ties to SF) that they are doing a LOT more next year to improve the maintenance, and overall guest experience, so we'll see!

Well humm..... i doubt Cedar Point will copy your little "Medusa" its Cedar Point, they dont copy Six Flags rides, they make up entirely new concepts of rides, Six Flags are the people that clone rides, if Cedar Point wanted one of Six Flags rides, why wouldnt they have cloned "X" thats a new concept, Cedar Point sure didnt copy that... or any of Six Flags Successful Concepts *** Edited 10/1/2004 11:03:23 PM UTC by Joe@cp04***
When a park announces a new ride, it's then built to attract more guests.

So, why in the world would Cedar Point clone Medusa to attract more guests!?


SFcoasterguy said:
Oh, and you guys are making fun of us getting the same layout as TTD pretty much... If you get a floorless, I would be willing to bet it will have pretty much the same layout as Medusa!

SF Has really surprised me with these new plans! I honestly thought this would be a parking lot coaster, with nothing else around it! They surprised me with the tiger exhibit where it is placed and what it will look like, they surprised me with the kid's section, water fountains, landscaping, and just the overall look of the entire project! I also have heard directly from Six flags (got some ties to SF) that they are doing a LOT more next year to improve the maintenance, and overall guest experience, so we'll see!


Uhh have you see Hydra? Its nothing like medusa. If CP would get a floorless it would be more like that then the boring layout Medusa has.

Anyway, As for the CP fanboys/Sf haters. You guys need some help. The ride will be great, The launch is more intense and that extra hill probably will pack alot more airtime. GET OVER IT. Did you think TTD would stand as the tallest forever? Ofcourse somebody would have taken the record. So lets put the jelousy away and be happy that we're getting close to topping 500'.

BTW, Kingda ka wont have that straight away the TTD has after the launch. TTD loses 5-10 Mph during that straight away before it hits the tower. This ride gets straight to the point as soon as it leaves the sled.


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SFcoasterguy said:
If you get a floorless, I would be willing to bet it will have pretty much the same layout as Medusa!


With CP being on a peninsula and all, and specific foot prints that coasters can actually be built on, is it possible for them to even build a clone of any kind?

To me, every coaster almost has to be custom made.


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