The Mysterious, possible footers
Yeah, and so does Breakers...
Remember that Cedar Point is a RESORT, so ya gotta put these people somewhere! :)
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Jes
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Alright everyone, time for some fun with visuals... What the heck :)
Let me start out by saying that as far fetched as it may sound, I'm all for the giant TA2K idea... As I said before, people are looking too much towards how Hypersonic XLC is working. It's the prototype (Yes, it is Thrust Air 2000 with a extra bump)... It's only natural for it to have problems. However, Dodonpa, the first major installation seems to be functioning without a hitch, and raising some major eyebrows as well. It was not easily that I came to this conclusion however... When the close-ups of the footers were released, I took it upon myself to do some major research. I looked at pretty much every footer I could find a picture of, and basically covered all the major coaster companies, as well as some non coaster rides as well. I quickly realized these were most likely not Intamin, because generally all of the Intamin footers I found had 4 bolts coming out, while these have what appears to be 12, in a circle. My first footer match was, in actuality, the footers for the first turnaround on X. (See Here) Yes, I know, pretty crazy, however Jeff quickly dismissed the Arrow possibility, so I kept searching, and finally I found one more footer with the matching bolt pattern... And this one matched even better... It was Dodonpa. Not only are the bolts the same, but the spacing between the footers appears to be the same as the two at CP as well... Take a look for yourself. (Fourth Photo On The Right)
As I think about it more and more, it just seems to make sense in my mind... Or at least it seems to coincide with many of the rumors floating about... Not only is it affordable when compared to other rides of that magnitude, but, according to Stan Checketts, it can easily be built extremely tall. That would seem to fit the whole 400ft+ rumors. And finally, I think it would offer an experience that would be unique at the Point.
So now here is where things may get a bit out of hand ;)
I decided to play connect the dots with the areas that are supposedly marked by Troika and Chaos, and by the Swan Boats, along with Area 51. Here is a possible connection between the areas. And, here is my idea for a simple TA2K layout utiliting that space... What I'm picturing is sort of a raised turn by swan boats, like at PKD, leaving the midway still open beneath the track, and possibly a station in the area 51 location. While MF is not in the photo, I can easily see it crossing over the island and manuevering around it.
Sorry if I went off on a rant of sorts, but I figured it'd be better to explain the logic behind my reasoning, rather than just saying "I think its a TA2K" :)
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Interesting theory. I can't say that I totally agree with it, though. I just don't see CP getting a TA2K. How many hyper/giga coasters does the park need? It just doesn't seem to be a logical addition to me.
But, your research and theory has certainly given us all something to think about...
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gravity: down to earth, without the sugar coating.
Yeah, I can see how they'd want to throw away all the money they just spent improving it.
but not camper village or lighthouse point......just a waist of space......
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I still don't rule out the possibility of a rotating restaurant.
Check out this pic and you will see how there could be three concrete footers supporting this structure.
http://www.wa-eyemd.org/Seattle%20Photos/Space_Needle__Totem.JPG
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Hey Pete... waterlines are needed for a restaurant, aren't they?!?!? ::Grin::
Here's another look... this is the bottom of the "Space Needle" in Seattle.
the picture about the 4th one down from the top...
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*** This post was edited by Laura 5/30/2002 1:03:35 AM ***
It could be one of those rotating tower restaurants ;)
Really, it's the worlds tallest Lemon Chill Stand.
*** This post was edited by Joe E. 5/30/2002 12:34:49 AM ***
As far as all the TA2K speculation goes... Not sure if I agree or not. It would be very cool, but think about this. If they did build one, they would be the only park in Ohio to have this type of ride, not to mention the highest coaster again. Sounds like a huge reason to get people to skip all the other parks in the area and run to CP to me.
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once again i say to everybody......a flat ride does not use footers...they use foundations....only thing that would use footers is either a roller coaster...or sone tipe of ride that has steel poles as supports or somthing like it
Most don't, but some do. Especially the HUSS giants and Ocean Motion.
Anyway, I like the S&S idea, but I just don't think its all that likely--isn't there a significant capacity issue with such small trains (maybe someone has more info on that)? Besides, though its obviously different, Id be surprised of CP got two launched coaster in a row. I wouldn't mind, of course.
Personally I would love to see CP get a 4th dimension.
Well, we know its nothing Arrow (I think), and with X's continued serious problems, I'm begining to question whether there will ever be another 4-D anywhere.
isn't there a significant capacity issue with such small trains (maybe someone has more info on that)?
Well, many people said the same thing about impulses, and WT has been running at pretty decent capacity. I'm sure that CP would do something about capacity if it really was a Thrust Air... back before we knew that there would be an impulse for '02, there was a lot of discussion about the possibility of a TA2K and how to solve capacity issues. There are SEVERAL things that could be done, such as making it a racing coaster, extending the trains, etc.
with X's continued serious problems, I'm begining to question whether there will ever be another 4-D anywhere.
Anyone who thought that X would run just fine in its first year is crazy. It's a prototype, problems should be expected. Eventually they should get worked out...
Very nice research, FloridaCoasterRider - while I'm not very optimistic about the chances of a TA2K at CP, I would LOVE to see one. One thing I'm unsure about though is this "orange marking" theory - I doubt that they are in connection with the new project, but it is possible.
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*** This post was edited by Majin Heero 5/30/2002 11:53:10 AM ***
Closed topic.