Soak City Announcement on

It looks exactly like the flip flop they sent to media, only bigger.

RCMAC said:

Is school starting soon? Please?

School starts by me on Thursday. Just in time to announce 2017.

If SC expands into the Challenge Park area it will certainly be interesting to see how they reconfigure access to and from each park. If they retain the existing resort entrance location, I could see them rerouting the general public to the path along Perimeter Rd.

Another option would be to relocate the resort entrance to an area somewhere between Gemini and Mean Streak and use the existing resort gate as a check point for guests moving between CP and SC. One problem with this option is you'd need to find a way to maintain pedestrian safety at the new entrance since people would no longer be crossing Perimeter Rd. via the tunnel (unless they were travelling between parks)..

I left out the Thursday part thinking that it was obvious because the date was already announced. I was just giving out the news that we didn't know. Sorry for the confusion.

Tony's recent post said something about the "pieces coming together." That, coupled with the flip flop clues being hidden with the park, makes me wonder if they are considering combing CP and Soak City into one gated admission park, much like several of their other properties.

This may have been brought up earlier in this thread, but I've been scrolling through only on a small screen at this point.

Personally, I prefer the separate parks, and (as I write this from my cottage at Lighthouse Point), it does seem to me that the separate water park would drive additional nights in the resorts.

Flip flop to me alludes to changing Mean Streak from wood to steel (RMC).

I think combining the parks wouldn't be practical at CP. Separate parks adds up to additional nights at the resorts. At other parks it's practical because there are no on-site resorts and the parks are nowhere near the size of CP. Plus, they probably get alot of extra revenue from SC being a separate park. If they combined the parks, the single day admission price would skyrocket. If it isn't broke, don't fix it.

Oh, I think the other piece is the other flip flop. After all, ya can't go anywhere without two.

Soak City and Challenge Park. The pieces are coming together!

Introducing: Soak Park Challenge City! So long Ripcord and Challenge Golf.

Western Cruiser said:

Tony's recent post said something about the "pieces coming together." That, coupled with the flip flop clues being hidden with the park, makes me wonder if they are considering combing CP and Soak City into one gated admission park, much like several of their other properties.

I know it's not a popular opinion on here, but I'm starting to see the same thing. As was pointed out, I don't see how they build SC attractions on the recently cleared space and/or the challenge golf area and keep the resort entrance as it is. It makes a lot of sense in my head to combine the parks, remove two gates (one CP and one SC) and build a new gate where the golf courses currently are. That allows continuing use of the tunnel under the road to get from the dry park to the wet park.

I guess we'll find out on Thursday.

Just received my passholder invite to Soak City this Thursday night for a 2017 announcement. I guess Mean Streak will have to wait for 2018?

And the interesting thing is that all pass holders, platinum and regular, are invited to attend the party which includes exclusive late slide time. RSVP to be included, must present pass for admittance.
The extra interesting thing is that there will be a "one-night only" special deal on 2017 platinum passes. (Which will not include the cast of Dreamgirls) But that tells me CP and SC will continue to maintain separate gates and admissions.

And that makes sense. Resort guests might like it better that way, plus it's proven additional revenue.

Based upon the e-mail I'd agree they'll still be separate gates in 2017. Reading into the e-mail I gathered it's telling folks to come check out what's new next year at Soak City. And oh, by the way check out this deal on Platinum Passes that'll get you into both the improved Soak City and Cedar Point all season long.

I'm all for a conversion of MS by RMC, but let's just get to reality here. This announcement for SC coming on Thursday has nothing to do with MS.

I wonder if anyone can get in on the one night Platinum Pass deal? I won't be at the park...

^ wondering that too I honestly don't know if Thursday would work as a park night or not yet.

The big problem I see combining both parks into one admission would be the admission price. How much would they have to add to a daily admission ticket to make up for the lost revenue in separate admissions? And would people willingly pay it?

If there is a REALLY good deal on passes this Thursday I do hope it will also be available online as I will not be able to make it to the park due to work.

I don't see these parks ever combining under one ticket. Soak City acts as a second gate helping create the resort multi-day feel. I doubt CF would be willing to take the extra revenue away. If it's worked since day one as a separate gate, why change that now? Also, I don't see re-routing access to the current Magnum/Resort gate to be that big of an issue. A new path can easily be added along Parameter Road underneath Magnum to the current tunnel into the park. Sure the gate would have to be rebuilt/reconfigured, but I doubt it'll be drastically changed or moved to a new location. Just my 2 cents. I wouldn't be surprised however to see the current Soak City entrance moved either closer to and facing Breakers, or closer to where Ripcord is currently.

Agreed. Soak City isn't "broke" as a separate gate, there's no reason to "fix" it by combining the parks. Many amusement park / water park combos don't have the water park sitting between two hotels and a campground.

Six Flags Great America offers Hurricane Harbor as an enticement to go to the amusement park -- "look, you get a water park for free!" It seems to me that Cedar Point uses Soak City as an enticement to stay longer -- "look, stay an extra day and enjoy our water park!" Or maybe "pay this much more money for your room and get our waterpark for 'free'!" I'm not familiar with how they price or promote the hotels and Lighthouse Point. Most of the places I stay in while on vacation end with the number 6 or 8. :-)

Paisley: they likely wouldn't have to increase the gate admission as much as you might think. If the parks were combined, everybody would be paying for the water park whether they visit the waterpark or not. It's like how (as I understand it) Holiday World determined how much people who bought soda pop were spending on average, rounded the number up and increased the gate price by that much; everybody who enters the park is buying soda pop whether they drink any or not.

Paisley said:

The big problem I see combining both parks into one admission would be the admission price. How much would they have to add to a daily admission ticket to make up for the lost revenue in separate admissions? And would people willingly pay it?

The online SC ticket is only about $15 less than the "Good Any Day" ticket on the CP website. And I wouldn't think they'd have to increase a CP ticket by much...keep in mind that they would be making some extra money from people who just wanted the water park and charging them the current CP admission.

Also, a 2-day Ride and Slide ticket is $89.99 (good for both parks on two days). They just rebrand that as a two-day ticket. It's still a multi-day destination and they haven't lost any revenue from the 2nd gate.

Finally, I don't see anything in the e-mail that leads me to the same conclusions you guys have. Since it's good for both regular and platinum passholders, they could just as easily be announcing that regular passholders will have access to both parks next year. Heck, they may even announce a Gold Pass and try to get Cleveland area residents to upgrade their regular passes to at least that like how so many Cinti area people have Gold Passes to KI.

I'm probably wrong and I'll readily admit it, but I'm not as convinced as you all seem to be.

Including soak city as a regular ticket would remove a benefit and upsell for platinum passes.

It would seemingly diminish the 'value' of a platinum pass.

Shane Denmark said:
I wonder if anyone can get in on the one night Platinum Pass deal? I won't be at the park...

"Space is limited" at this thing. So I hope the deal is available to the masses that can't make it or to those who can't get in due to space limitation.