Rougarou teaser video

Maybe I should edit that to say "for a thrill ride." ;)

Has anyone considered that the trims will just be turned off? Seems silly to spend money to remove equipment that is still fully functioning. Plus they can easily bring it back if they find the ride experience is no good after disabling the trim.

^ Trims usually are added after extensive testing, so I'd say you are right. They probably don't know for sure if the ride will need it or not. They will most likely keep the trim and after testing in the Spring determine if it's needed. If not, they will probably turn it off.

Riding Mantis/Rougarou/TCFKAB last weekend, the catwalk near the trim was painted, but the trim itself wasn't (previously, I thought the trim was painted orange and the track it was on was not, but riding it in brighter light revealed the trim was still red, not orange. The track is still yellow under the trim)

Mantis is the only B&M I can think of to have a trim on the first drop's slope - all other B&Ms with trimmed first drops have trims after the pre-drop. Of course, those tended to be designed with trims.

On another note, look at Medusa (floorless) at Six Flags Discovery Kingdom. It has 2 trims - one before the first drop and one after its zero-g roll. They are still there, but the actual parts that come in contact with the trains have been removed, rendering the trims non-functional.

By the way, here is a video of Mantis pre-trim-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKgnDwqWLi4

Tilt-a-Whirl said:
Trims usually are added after extensive testing...

Not true. Most of the B&M's in the last decade and a half or so opened with trims in places they thought they might be necessary.

See Banshee despite no reports of it ever having been used, at least last I checked.

I think the trim will probably stay. I rode Mantis pre-trim and the positive g's were pretty extreme. I don't see the need changing just because the riding position changed.

There's no point in incurring the expense to remove it. If it isn't necessary they can just turn it off.

Yeah, even not using the trim will make a good conversational piece, like a coffee table book.

Jeff said:
Not true. Most of the B&M's in the last decade and a half or so opened with trims in places they thought they might be necessary.

Very true. The trim we're speaking of wasn't added until 1997. I also wasn't referring to just B&M coasters, but coasters in general.

I think that deactivating the trim makes sense. Mantis' / Rougarou's extreme intensity would work better with the new floorless trains.

As for Banshee (KI, not talking about TCFKAB) and its trim, are you sure that it is not used? It is a short magnetic trim on a downwards slope at high speed. While it can be turned off (I know Leviathan's magnetic trims can, so I assume this can too), even with it on, it wouldn't be very noticeable. Does anybody know if it is used?

On another note, I got lots of rides on Mantis on Friday. Personally, I believe that the beginning of the layout is pretty awesome, but the end is bland... maybe a little unique in combining 3 different kinds of turns, but still a bit weird. I don't know whether I like it or hate it... I think it would be a good place for special effects. While this probably won't happen, I've heard talk of Banshee's (as in Mantis') original plans involving an enclosed finale.

The trim on Banshee has never been on when I have ridden it, nor have I ever read that anyone has noticed it.

Magnetics actually work better at higher speeds, so you would notice them quite easily. I am sure you would feel it if it was used. I never even felt the slightest bit of deceleration on that ride.

Some site design, especially on the second half, would go a long way toward enhancing Rougarou's identity. The ground below Mantis is pretty desolate and this would be a great opportunity to build up an appropriately themed landscape.

Tilt-a-Whirl said:

Jeff said:
Not true. Most of the B&M's in the last decade and a half or so opened with trims in places they thought they might be necessary.

Very true. The trim we're speaking of wasn't added until 1997. I also wasn't referring to just B&M coasters, but coasters in general.

Citing one exception doesn't make anything true about "most" coasters. I think you just like to argue.

Invertalon said:
The trim on Banshee has never been on when I have ridden it, nor have I ever read that anyone has noticed it.

Magnetics actually work better at higher speeds, so you would notice them quite easily. I am sure you would feel it if it was used. I never even felt the slightest bit of deceleration on that ride.

Ah. I'm just saying it is a short trim, but I know that mags work best at high speed, I didn't think of that.

I remember that I305's temporary long magnetic trim combined with the face-down position threw you forward.

Jeff said:

Tilt-a-Whirl said:

Jeff said:
Not true. Most of the B&M's in the last decade and a half or so opened with trims in places they thought they might be necessary.

Very true. The trim we're speaking of wasn't added until 1997. I also wasn't referring to just B&M coasters, but coasters in general.

Citing one exception doesn't make anything true about "most" coasters. I think you just like to argue.

From the looks of it, Jeff, it seemed like he had agreed with you, then he reworded his statement for everybody to better understand, and you're the one that keeps arguing. Not trying to be rude, but just stating how I see it from outside, in.

Heck, Magnum, Gemini, Mean Streak, and Mantis are all great examples, just at CP, of adding trims (a) year(s) after their opening.

With that said, I thought I read somewhere that Rougarou will have lighter trains than Mantis. If that is the case, maybe the trims won't be needed or used. IIRC, trims are activated depending on the train's weight, which affects the speed. I could very well be wrong.

If there is any type of automatic variable trim brake, the speed is sensed, not the weight.

^^ yes, that's what I meant. I was agreeing with you, Jeff, about the last 15 years of B&M's with pre-designed trim brakes... apologies if it seemed as if I was arguing the point. That's not the reputation I want in this community. I've been an avid fan & reader for 15 years, the site means a lot to me.. I'll quiet down.

Will mantis be open on friday the 17th cause i heard it doesnt open on friday nights

Well I'm at least going to answer this question by saying I don't know. At least someone responded back right? I would just check for updates from here or CPrundown.