Review: Luminosity (2012)

Shades said:
Not so fast...

Yeah, because I was so obviously trying to make a mathematical argument laced with political satire.

*facepalm*

I get the satire. My point was that beer is not as expensive at the park as a lot of folks are making it out to be.

That's probably true, as the prices are right in line with sporting event pricing.

Still, I wonder how much non-crappy beer would sell for at CP.

I suffered through an Indians game last night watching my Reds get beat up. I was amazed at how many people were paying $8-10 for beers. I agree that the price of beer at CP is right in line with the baseball game but I don't see near as many people drinking there as I did last night. Is it a captive audience thing at the baseball game or is it just part of the tradition of going to a game?

Shades said:
Is it a captive audience thing at the baseball game or is it just part of the tradition of going to a game?

I can't answer that question; but maybe if the beer and food weren't so expensive the Tribe could get more fans out there. Cleveland was one of the cities hit hardest during the recession yet they sell beer for $8+. The players shouldn't complain that the fans aren't coming, they should complain that the owners are driving the fans away.

But I digress....Roll Tribe

Detroit was hit harder, probably, than Cleveland, and fans still show up for the Tigers, and line up to spend $8+ on beer. So I think you're misplacing the problem. People expect, and generally seem to budget for, the crazy prices at sporting events.

Shades said:
...I don't see near as many people drinking there as I did last night. Is it a captive audience thing at the baseball game or is it just part of the tradition of going to a game?

Assuming that by the above "there", you're referring to CP...

CP's guests are captive as well, so I don't think that plays a role. I think it has more to do with, as you alluded to, beer and hot dogs being part of the ball game experience. I doubt many people come to CP with the intention of throwing back a few brews, which is why I feel the whole "alcohol = anarchy" nonsense is so, well, nonsensical.

Detroit was for sure hit harder, but maybe people in Cleveland are smarter with their money ;)

It's just sad because the Tribe had the best fans in baseball in the late 90's but thats a long time ago now.

As for CP beer prices, they are very expensive, but so is everything at the park. You either pay it, or don't. If I really want a beer while I'm at CP, then I know that I will have to pony up 8 bucks or whatever. If that's too steep then I'm just not going to drink a beer.

Same with food, that's why a lot of people bring coolers. The people who are truly captive by the prices are the out of state guests who can't bring a cooler full of food to the park

Sause said:

I can't answer that question; but maybe if the beer and food weren't so expensive the Tribe could get more fans out there. Cleveland was one of the cities hit hardest during the recession yet they sell beer for $8+.

But I digress....Roll Tribe

I think they should sell beer for $0.10, I'm sure that would work out great...

Why is there something wrong with people storming the field and ripping out seats and pissing off the upper deck?

Because that's what happens when you have basically an open bar for 70,000 people...

Baseball stadiums at most will hold less than 55,000 but still, it's a lot of people.

That 15,000 makes all the difference.

Now I have to edit my post since you edited yours. Curse you!

Haha well I looked it up and only Dodger Stadium holds more than 55,000. It's always sad watching the Indians get 15,000 crowds, it's hard to believe they sold out so many games in a row.

Oh, boo-hoo. At least your team is over .500. :)

And for the record, high beer/food prices is not what is keeping people from going to baseball games, especially when you can get $15 tickets to the game.

djDaemon said:
Oh, boo-hoo. At least your team is over .500. :)

I'm a big Indians fan but I'm also a big Blackhawks fan, your spoiled with the Red Wings :)

Sause said:
It's just sad because the Tribe had the best fans in baseball in the late 90's but thats a long time ago now.

Wasn't the 90s when the Tribe was winning the division several years in a row? Making it to the World Series twice? Wasn't that before they traded back to back Cy Young award winners? Wasn't that at a time when most people in Cleveland could name the starting lineup unlike now where few can name more than a couple of players with a lineup with major changes year after year? I don't think you can pin the current attendance issues on beer prices at the ballpark.

Spoiled? You must have been born in the mid 90's. ;)

Haha your exactly right, haven't they been to the playoffs like 20 straight seasons or something? I thought I heard that last year.

It is hard for me to spend $6+ on a beer at a park. I am a huge beer enthusiast, so I am always buying expensive and unique beers to try. But when I see a Budweiser for $7 it makes me cringe, as I can buy a 8 pack for the same price at the store.

If I go out to eat at Mad Mex though in Pittsburgh who has a killer beer menu, I generally will spend $6-8 on a beer that I never had before. Because to me, that is justifiable. There is more value to me in a microbrewery brew for $6 than there is on Budweiser.

At a park, my limit would be $4.50 or so for a cheap draft... Unless I had an unbearable taste for one :)

GoBucks89 said:

I don't think you can pin the current attendance issues on beer prices at the ballpark.

I agree but when the team is in 1st place yet the stadium is half full there's something else going on. The prices don't help is all I'm saying. They do put forth an effort with dollar dog nights and such, but everyone can agree that $8 for 16 ounces of beer is high.