Overpriced hotel rooms.

Little late for that advice:)

Right now we're staying six nights (week after Thanksgiving) with six-day park hopper tickets, the table service dining plan for about $1,200 for two of us. No rental car required, since they pick you up at the airport. No airfare because we have miles to spend. So for about $200 a day, we get the hotel, two admissions and about $150 worth of food. Worth every penny to us.

I agree Jeff that the value is there and you are getting a fantastic price. We have been to Disney one time and we all loved it. We want to go again but other stuff keeps diverting our money. I guess I am jealous that you are going to have a great time:(

Jeff.

Are you doing the buy 4 nights, get two free deal?

Crazy Horse Said:

Breakers on average was around $175.00(low end) per night. Still more than pop century.

Breakers express is off property, and still cost's just as much as pop century. Not to mention that they do not have any of the perks that a disney hotel has. Plus, the place is no where near as nice as pop century.

" Most People fly to Disney so add 160 roundtrip per person. Stats: Disney is going to be cheaper with rooms but the tickets and food they suck your money away."

Same can be said for people that fly to ohio to get to cedarpoint. And don't forget to add a rent a car into the cost, because cedar point does not have any shuttle service.

A lot of people drive a long distance to get to cedarpoint. So why don't you factor in the gas too? Just driving in from michigan, I dump $40-$50 in gas round trip. I am talking about just the cost of the resort and tickets. Not to mention, if you look hard enough you will find great deals on airfair. Right now I can fly to orlando for $86.00 round trip.

Food at disney is cheaper(and much better), than it is at cedar point. So I can't see your argument there eather. Heck, if you book a package at the right time, the food is even free.

You book a disney resort, you get this and more...

(1)Free disney express bus from airport to hotel

(2) Transportation to all the theme parks every day at no cost

(3) You can have anything you buy in the parks shipped to the resort at no extra cost.

(4) Morning and evening ert in the parks. And most times more than 30 min worth. Plus most of the park is open for the ert. When we went, we had an extra 3 hours in the magic kingdom one night.

(5) Several activities for the kids to do in the hotel.

(6) Something to do after the parks close at night. There is disney quest and downtown disney.

The value goes much deeper than just the cost. It's what you are getting for your money as well.

I was just looking into booking a trip to disney based on 2 adults and 2 children. For 6 nights, 7 days that included hotel, park tickets, disney express, and dinning plan it came to just over $1,400. That's around $350.00 a person for the whole week. Not bad at all.

They even have a special right now that gives you 2 or 3 night free, if you stay 4 nights. That's for hotel and park tickets.

1)Breakers is a better hotel than friekin Pop Century.
2)Cedar Point has shuttle service to the park.
3)FYI pop century doesn't have these nice rooms like you are talking about. They are pretty much like Breakers Express and the all stars now has nicer rooms than Pop Century.
4)More people fly to Disney than Cedar Point. I read somewhere that 70% of people fly to Disney. Maybe 5% of people fly to Cedar Point. Also get your fake number off of the roundtrip. Unless you are using rewards or Tripple A, the cheapest rate from $69 ONE WAY.(from Detroit to MAO)
5)YOU HAVE TO PAY $36 TO GO TO DISNEYQUEST. What a value my behind.
Crazy horse you are irrelevant to what you are saying. We are talking about Value and you are saying $40 to play video games for 3 hours is fun. The kids activities also you have to pay for at Disney. If you wanted to roast Marshmallows at the Beach Club, $.50 per marshmallow. You REALLY exaggerate the value of Disney. One last thing, water at disney is 4.00 for 20oz bottle. CP, 3.25.

coolkid2345 said:
Crazy Horse Said:

1)Breakers is a better hotel than friekin Pop Century.
2)Cedar Point has shuttle service to the park.
3)FYI pop century doesn't have these nice rooms like you are talking about. They are pretty much like Breakers Express and the all stars now has nicer rooms than Pop Century.
4)More people fly to Disney than Cedar Point. I read somewhere that 70% of people fly to Disney. Maybe 5% of people fly to Cedar Point. Also get your fake number off of the roundtrip. Unless you are using rewards or Tripple A, the cheapest rate from $69 ONE WAY.(from Detroit to MAO)
5)YOU HAVE TO PAY $36 TO GO TO DISNEYQUEST. What a value my behind.
Crazy horse you are irrelevant to what you are saying. We are talking about Value and you are saying $40 to play video games for 3 hours is fun. The kids activities also you have to pay for at Disney. If you wanted to roast Marshmallows at the Beach Club, $.50 per marshmallow. You REALLY exaggerate the value of Disney. One last thing, water at disney is 4.00 for 20oz bottle. CP, 3.25.

(1)In no way is breakers better than pop centurey. How do you figure it is?

(2)Cedar point has 1 shuttle bus for the whole park and all hotels that you can catch if you are lucky, or have been waiting for an hour. Disney has busses lined up waiting to pick you up. At most, you may have to wait 5-10 min for another bus. Plus they have the free airport shuttle bus as well.

(3) Again, how do you figure that breakers rooms are better? Look on almost any hotel review website and most people will disagree with you.

(4) Check out spirit airlines. If you join the $9 fare club, you get all kinds of deals. It only cost's $30 a year to join, and you usaly save that on your first flight you book after joining. Again, if you study things first, you will find all kinds of deals out there. Like I said, you also have to pay for gas if you are driving to cedar point. If you are driving from tenn, chicago, new york, Jersey,or many other cities...How much do you think round trip gas is gonna be?

(5) I did not have to pay a dime for disney quest. It was included in our package. Ok , so they charge .50 for a marshmallow? So what's that gonna set me back ....$1.00? At least there is an option there, as to cedar point does not have any options.

And where are you getting the $4.00 water price from? Look here.... http://allears.net/menu/men_cr.htm

Looks to me like they are $2.50. Still $1.75 cheaper than cedar point. Of course I have not even had to buy a water there because it is included in the dinning plan. Besides that, disney has drinking fountains in the lines for the rides.

Btw....

Here are just a few hotel reviews. One is for hotel breakers, and the other is for pop century.

First up breakers.... http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g50940-d101745-Reviews-Hotel_Breakers-Sandusky_Ohio.html

Can't find many other reviews for this hotel.

Next up pop century.... http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g34515-d207235-Reviews-Disney_s_Pop_Century_Resort-Orlando_Florida.html

or

http://www.expedia.com/pub/agent.dll/qscr=dspv/htid=602438

or

http://travel.yahoo.com/p-hotel-334724-disney_s_pop_century_resort_free_dining_promotion-i

You be the judge.

^ The key word is "in the package". If you are trying to get the cheapest rate possible with "no frills" there is not going to be disney quest or world of sports.

Spirit airlines 9 dollar club does not do that much. I saw $55 one way. $110 + 40 for the membership= $150 might help in the long run but a little.

Next up hotels:

You are right that Pop Century is rated better. Pop Century is a cheap hotel. People rate it based upon the cheapness of the hotel. It does the job. It was rated 4/5 because of its value not on how luxurious it was.
Breakers is based on an middle to upper hotel. It scored well. 3.5/5 is pretty good for a higher market hotel.

Breakers is still rated alot better if you put Pc's score into the middle to higher market hotel.

coolkid2345 said:
^ The key word is "in the package". If you are trying to get the cheapest rate possible with "no frills" there is not going to be disney quest or world of sports

Again. At least they have lots of things to do after the parks close down unlike cedar point.

Spirit airlines 9 dollar club does not do that much. I saw $55 one way. $110 + 40 for the membership= $150 might help in the long run but a little.

Look at the email they just sent me. $36 each way. I pay at least $40-$50 round trip in gas just getting to cedar point.(tried to link the email, but would not work so I cut and pasted the prices below.) The rates are $36 if you travel on a tue or wen. Same thing for the trip home from orlando.

Detroit To: Mondays Tuesdays Wednesdays Thursdays Fridays Saturdays Sundays
Myrtle Beach $36* E/W $16* E/W $16* E/W $26* E/W $46* E/W $36* E/W $56* E/W
Fort Lauderdale $66* E/W $36* E/W $36* E/W $46* E/W $76* E/W $56* E/W $86* E/W
Fort Myers $66* E/W $36* E/W $36* E/W $46* E/W $76* E/W $56* E/W $86* E/W
Orlando $66* E/W $36* E/W $36* E/W $46* E/W $76* E/W $56* E/W $86* E/W
Tampa $66* E/W $36* E/W $36* E/W $46* E/W $76* E/W $56* E/W $86* E/W
Las Vegas $76* E/W $56* E/W $56* E/W $96* E/W $106* E/W $86* E/W $116* E/W
Los Angeles (LAX) $76* E/W $56* E/W $56* E/W $96* E/W $106* E/W $86* E/W $116* E/W
New York (LaGuardia) $76* E/W $56* E/W $56* E/W $96* E/W $106* E/W $86* E/W $116* E/W

Next up hotels:

You are right that Pop Century is rated better. Pop Century is a cheap hotel. People rate it based upon the cheapness of the hotel. It does the job. It was rated 4/5 because of its value not on how luxurious it was.
Breakers is based on an middle to upper hotel. It scored well. 3.5/5 is pretty good for a higher market hotel.

Breakers is still rated alot better if you put Pc's score into the middle to higher market hotel.

Breakers is not rated better. Where do you see that? Only a 64% approval rating for a hotel that charges over $200 for rooms is not that great. Higher market hotel has nothing to do with it. All hotels are on the same bracket when it comes to rating the quality of the stay.

And breakers express is a value resort, and it only has a 59% approval rating compared to pop's 87%. Thats almost a big differance. What's that tell you? Look at the link

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g50940-d503559-Reviews-Breakers_Express-Sandusky_Ohio.html

Sandcastle got a lower rating as well with only a 61% vote. See here..

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g50940-d124673-Reviews-Sandcastle_Suites-Sandusky_Ohio.html

Here is a review from a few of the moderate resorts at disney...

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g34515-d120307-Reviews-Disney_s_Coronado_Springs_Resort-Orlando_Florida.html

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g34515-d85983-Reviews-Disney_s_Caribbean_Beach_Resort-Orlando_Florida.html

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g34515-d125310-Reviews-Disney_s_Port_Orleans_Resort_Riverside-Orlando_Florida.html

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g34515-d120305-Reviews-Disney_s_Port_Orleans_Resort_French_Quarter-Orlando_Florida.html

All of these hotels are in the same price range as breakers is. But they all seem to be rated much better. Why do you think that is?

All of them are rated approx 25% better than breakers is.

Stop being a fanboy, or fankid, or whatever. Pop Century rooms are nicer, especially the beds. Honestly the bar is not set very high at CP. I've not been in the suites at Breakers, but the average rooms in tower and east are beyond nothing special, and the beds are awful.

I stay in a lot of hotels, including 5-diamond. The only reason CP can get away with what they charge is location.

I just got back from Disney a couple weeks ago and stayed at Pop Century. It was the end of value season and my wife and I had Annual passes that were part of our wedding package from October 2008. So with the annual pass discount and value season we stayed five nights for $275. Averages out at $55 a night. Pop Century blows any CP resort out the water. Three huge themed pools, huge food court (with fair prices) and a full service bar.

The food was so much better at Disney and cheaper than CP. A 32 oz fountain pop at CP is $5.00 and at Disney its $2.50. A 16 oz domestic beer is $7 at CP and $5.50 at Disney.

No resort at CP can compare to any at Disney. I dont care if Lake Erie is right there. Also on this same trip I was on we stayed two nights in Daytona at a Super 8 right on the beach and only $55 a night. Now thats a great view. Decent hotel, nothing special but it served its purpose.

I was interested in staying on point before the end of the season and when i looked up prices, my jaw hit the floor. I dont know who CP thinks they are but those prices are insane! Lookes like the Howard Johnson at the end of the causeway for me!

You can't walk to any park at Disney from any one of their "on site" hotels, and I'm not a fan of the buses. That's the big difference here, and the only reason to stay at Breakers. Sure it's way over priced, but I've never found it dirty or uncomfortable. We stay there at least 3 weekends a year, but we are at a point in our life where it's worth it to us. Apparently they get enough people like us to keep the price point way too high. :)

We also go to Disney every year. I don't understand how anyone can say that the food courts are anything but mediocre. The sit down resturants at the moderate hotels are OK, bit I don't know if I'd say they have great value. We don't stay in the value resorts any more because they tend to me more noisy and crowded.

On a side note: The trick to moving around at Disney parks is a rental car and AAA Diamond parking.

I thought the public transportation was one of the best parts about my family's trip to Disney this past summer (and primarily we used buses and to a lesser extent boats and the monorail). I agree that the food wasn't anything special though we didn't go there looking for great dining. To me, the best part of Disney's quick service was its speed/efficiency rather than the good being very good. As for costs, the Disney trip was pretty much middle of the road looking back at the last 10 years or so of family vacations we have taken. I have never stayed in a hotel in the Sandusky/CP area so I have no idea what the costs would be.

But in the end, everyone is looking for different things and will find different values in different things. Which is why there are so many different options out there.

Let me clarify: the buses are fine as long as they aren't too crowded and running on time. I find a car parked close to be the best and quickest option.

I have never had too much of a problem with the busses. When the park closes, most the time they have the busses lined up just waiting for you.

It's really nice at the end of the night when you leave the park, to not have to drive or deal with the traffic.

^ They are pretty good about the buses at night. The buses at the beach club are always crowded and take long because you share with Yacht, Boardwalk, and Swan&Dolphin. Port Orleans is the same but there are alot of stops.

I still don't get why everyone is trying to force a comparison to Disney. The better comparison would be the Universal Resorts to the Disney resorts.

I stayed at a Best Western in Venice, Italy that cost me three times as much as any other Best Western. The room was barely large enough for the double bed and I couldn't bend over in the shower to wash my feet...it was so small. I knew what I was getting into because I was going to be in Venice.

OK, Universal for the win then. :) If you do a little research you can book Royal Pacific for well below $150. If one person gets a preferred annual pass, rooms are even cheaper, and you'll break even at two nights and get 10% off most food in the parks, which is already considerably cheaper than CP. Everyone else can get the $99 7-day pass. The pool at RPR is one of the best I've been in (only Caesars Palace in Vegas was better to me). City Walk is right there so you can party, see movies, eat in many great restaurants. Of course the parks are walking distance as well. Plus you're staying on-property, so you get free Express Pass, which means certain times of year you're practically walking up to every ride, every time.

There is no contest in value. Zero. Universal, FTW.

That said, I still think the Disney resorts are a better value, especially with the current dining plan and extra day promotions.

Probably not many folks finding much value in outdoor pools in northeast Ohio or 5-7 night stays in CP area this time of year. And the economics of 365 day parks with large number of visitors who stay overnight are very different from parks with 3-5 month operating seasons with a much smaller percentage of visitors who stay overnight. And those differences have significant impacts on many things in particular lodging and dining offerings and prices.

Now I think few people take those things into account in making decisions on which park to visit. In part because many folks do not understand them. In biggest part though I suspect because they just do not care: wherever they find the best value for their money is where they will go/spend their money (and many folks who do not understand the economic differences probably would take this view if they did). And that is how it should work from the customer stand point. Parks can make changes but those must be made within the reality of the given park.

The biggest knock I have against finding value in any Disney resorts is that I would be going to the Disney parks.

Have you ever been to them? Because any of those parks is on a different universe then any park Ive ever been to. There are very few places Ive visited where I can honestly say I felt like time stopped and I left reality and Disney World is one of those places.