Overpriced hotel rooms.

Ok, I hate to start another negative thread, but what is up with the outragious prices they are charging for the on property hotels?

I just called to get rates on hotel rooms for this sat night, and the cheapest they had was $139.00 for breakers express. There is no way in hell that breakers express is worth $139 a night.

I asked about sandcastle, ant the rooms there are going for $255.00 a night.

There is no way I would ever pay that much for a sub par room at best. I have stayed at the cedarpoint resorts before, and I have stayed in better rooms at a truck stop. Other than being inside the park and getting in the park an hour early, what other bennifit do they have?

I just called kalahari, and they have rooms for $179 a night. Much nicer hotel, and the price includes the waterpark as well.(all rates above are based on 2 adults and 2 chilren).

Now I get it that it may be a nice to have a room inside the park for ease, but is it worth that much?

They have online deals here:

http://www.cedarpoint.com/public/admission/tickets/deals.cfm

$79 per night at Castaway Bay, $129 per night at Sandcastle Suites.

But the online reservation system seems to be down right now.

I called, and there are no more specials for this weekend.

They're not overpriced. They run at pretty high occupancy all year long.

I disagree a bit. They ARE overpriced and they DO run high occupancy throughout the season.

I've not stayed at Breakers Express but the suites at Sandcastle are not subpar. They sleep 6, they are located on the Peninsula with a pretty great view, and they have been renovated over the past couple of years. There are plenty of folks that find value in that place even if Crazy Horse does not. Would I pay $255 if that hotel was plopped down in the middle of Perkins Ave? No...but it isn't.

$139 for Express may be high considering other off-Point accommodations but there must be people staying there. Or, Cedar Fair doesn't mind if rooms sit empty. Considering the staffing issues they are likely facing these last few weekends that just might be the case.

All I'm getting at is that "overpriced" would seem to indicate the rooms are priced higher than the market can bear. Obviously, this isn't the case.

The rooms are simply priced higher than crazy horse can bear.

Two very different things, I think.

Good point.

Disney's rooms, by and large, are priced higher than what I can bear. Would I like to stay at the Wilderness Lodge everytime I go to Orlando? Sure I would. Do I? No. (But, I am getting a two bedroom, two bath suite in a new resort over on I-Drive for $79 per night next weekend. I do love those Florida resident specials.) I could get one cramped room over at the All Stars for the same price but two bedrooms makes all the difference in the world.

djDaemon said:
All I'm getting at is that "overpriced" would seem to indicate the rooms are priced higher than the market can bear. Obviously, this isn't the case.

The rooms are simply priced higher than crazy horse can bear.

Two very different things, I think.

I totally agree. Now if only that concept could have made its way over to the $3 soda thread. ;)

Actually, it did. The market is supporting CP's $3 soda "model" just fine. :)

Chief Wahoo said:

I've not stayed at Breakers Express but the suites at Sandcastle are not subpar.

The same can be said about the suites in Breakers East. Poolside with a great view of the beach. The building construction also makes the rooms nice and quiet, you don't hear your neighbor above, below or to the sides.

Can the bedding be more luxurious? Sure. Should the room service menu be improved? Yes. But, there is A LOT of value in the location.

djDaemon said:
Actually, it did. The market is supporting CP's $3 soda "model" just fine. :)

Of course, that doesn't mean the market analysis isn't being done by a retarded monkey. ;)

How dare you infer that Kinzel is a retarded monkey. That's really no way to talk about monkeys, man.

That they can fill the rooms (and for the record, it sounds like they haven't this year), but they won't get me to stay there. I've paid far less for a real four-diamond hotel like Royal Pacific at Universal Orlando, where there are palm trees, several good restaurants, a pool that can't be beat and, oh yeah, Islands of Adventure within walking distance. Not to mention it's next to City Walk, so there's something to do at night.

No comparison. CP hotels suck for what they cost. I realize my opinion is irrelevant for others who obviously pay it.

You can stay at a moderate resort on disney property for less than a crappy room at cedar point. And the view is much better. Not to mention all the perks you get when you stay at a disney resort. Look at the rates here...

http://allears.net/acc/faq_cbr.htm

You can also stay at one of there "value" resorts that is also on disney property for about 1/3 what you would pay for a room at cedar point. I could stay 3 nights at a disney resort, for what it would cost me for a single night at cp. Look at the rates here....

http://allears.net/acc/faq_pop.htm

And the pop century resort has so much more to offer than any cedar point resort does. The views and amenitys run circles around cedar point resorts. Look here...

http://allears.net/acc/g_pop.htm

It's not that I can't afford the room, it's that I refuse to pay that much for what they have to offer me. I would be more than happy to pay that much for a room at kalahari(or other nice hotels), because I know I am getting my money worth there. You also have to remember that when at cedar point, you are going to be spending your time in the park, not the hotel.

Castaway bay had rooms marked down to $79 a night, but that did not include the waterpark. Not a bad price, but what incentive do I have staying there, over the holiday inn or la quinta(much nicer hotels)?

Hotel breakers is a decent hotel(new section), but is also way overpriced. After 9 pm, everything except for the tgif is closed inside the hotel. Once again, the only thing breakers has going for it is that it's just steps from the park, and you have early entry. Not worth more than $100.00 more per night than other nice hotels in the area. Not enough incentive for me. I would stay down the road at holiday in or la quinta and keep $100 or more in my pocket.

LaQuinta gets our money on multi-day visits, though they're not exactly the nicest hotel in the area. But they offer a decent value.

I stay at breakers usually because i love the convenience. Being able to walk out of the park and right to your hotel for an hour to eat is great. I know its a little bit expensive but look at where the hotel is. you cant get any closer to the park. You are paying for the location. If you want cheap just get a twin room with a stand up shower for 80 bucks a night.

crazy horse, if you would rather look at a giant Yo-Yo or Bowling Pin instead of the lake/beach then more power to you.

They seem to be doing ok without your business and you seem to be doing ok finding other accommodations so it sounds like it is a win-win for all involved.

That doesn't make his opinion any less valid. I'm inclined to agree with him. I've stayed at Pop Century (and will again in December), and honestly it is nicer than Breakers. It might not have the view, but who sits around at Breakers enjoying the view when Magnum is doing its thing a few hundred yards away?

Chief Wahoo said:
crazy horse, if you would rather look at a giant Yo-Yo or Bowling Pin instead of the lake/beach then more power to you.

They seem to be doing ok without your business and you seem to be doing ok finding other accommodations so it sounds like it is a win-win for all involved.

Not true. From what I hear, room bookings are down quite a bit this year. I called to get prices on a room for a weekend this july, there were rooms open in every one of the cp resorts.This was a few days before we were going. I could not do that a few years ago. If you did not book months ahead of time for a weekend in july, you were not getting a room. Not a problem now.

I fail to find the value in a cp resort, whan I can stay 5 min down the road and get more for less. The reason that castaway and sandcastle is booked up this weekend is because of the online deal they had. Not a bad deal, but once again, I can get more 5 min down the road. It does not bother me to drive a few min to get to the hotel. I am not lazy.

I can still stay at disney and have a lake view room for less than what it would cost me at cedarpoint. Just look at the links I posted above. And now that I have a daughter, I perfer a room with bowling pins and giant yoyos because she digs that kind of stuff. And not to mention that a room at pop centurey is much nicer than any room I have stayed at cedar point.

I actually think the hotels are a decent deal if you book a package. We do that once a year for Halloweekends - we stayed at Breakers this time which is a bit pricier (and much nicer) but if you do a BE package it's a great deal. You figure:

2 Saturday tickets - $44.99 ea $89.98

4 starlight halloweekends tickets - $29.99 ea $119.96

1 parking pass - $10.00 $10.00

That's $219.94 worth of tickets you get with your package, which includes 2 nights hotel and early entry to the park. If you buy a basic package at BE, the package itself costs $305.46, which means that your hotel room costs $42.76 per night.