News: Cedar Point blog shows footers at WWL site

I'll bite. Why do you feel they are being racist?

MrScott


Mayor, Lighthouse Point

Grovite 18 said:

I am eagerly awaiting walking back there in 2007 and it really making me just stand and smile.

Me too, other then the first time I went to CP (when I simply was in awe of every thing that was there) seeing the new area around Maxair made me feel great. I am sure in 07 that I will feel the same way.


RIDE ON, and ON and ON and ON and ON and ON...

Gomez's avatar

I found this interesting.

http://www.pointimage.net/features/2007Attraction/


-Craig-
2008:Magnum XL-200 | Top Thrill Dragster
2007:Corkscrew | Magnum XL-200 | Maverick

Please keep in mind that large amounts of concrete take quite some time to cure and harden. If you plan on putting any kind of load weight on these footers, they have to be firmly set. It has been mentioned that the footers of TTD are the size of school buses and took months to harden. You do not see the size of the support at or above ground level. Nor did we see the footers as they were being poured on any CP cam or news update. We did see the tops when they were covered.

Also keep in mind that the soil at the point is very sandy, so many footers have to be larger than that of a harder clay base soil.

These are lessons learned when putting in Magnum and why it is sinking (I couldn't resist).

Kevinj's avatar

Those footers look very different from one another.

Vince982's avatar

I think it's impossible to compare footers until it is revealed what lays under that blue tarp. Darn those nasty blue tarps.


We'll miss you MrScott and Pete

They are the anchor bolts that will attach to a support base.


-Gannon
-B.S. Civil Engineering, Purdue University

CP Bound, I don't think that was what Vince was getting at. I'm sure he meant what type of anchor bolts they are. Of course they are anchor bolts.


-Chris

The new footer does look exactly like the footer for El Toro.


-Scott Wilson
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Except the footer at CP is a lot bigger. Look at the footprints beside it and the shovel markings on the dirt on top of the footer to get a good idea of just how big.

From what I know about wooden coasters, the timbers don't change much in dimension, no matter how high they go.


-Gannon
-B.S. Civil Engineering, Purdue University

One thing can be said for sure, you can't associate any certain type of footer with any coaster manufacturer with great certainty:
TTD - Intamin - square footers
MF - Intamin - cylinder footers
Raptor - B&M - square footers (with an extra smaller square on top)
Hydra the Revenge - B&M - mostly cylindrical footers, but some square footers (with extra smaller square or circle on top)
Sheikra - B&M - square footers
Tatsu - B&M - mostly cylindrical footers, but some square footers
X - Arrow - Square footers
El Toro - Intamin - Square footers
Goliath (SFOG) - B&M - Square with extra smaller square on top
Silver Bullet - B&M Square with extra smaller square on top.


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The more I sit and look at that picture, it looks like one big footer. It looks like the dirt between the two tarps is from a Bobcat tracking it on there.

TTD 120mph's avatar

I think I might have found something interesting about the footer. Taking a closer look at the picture I think I’ve determined that there are more than 3 bolt anchors with caps on them, so that debunks the ElToro theory. The other thing is that it's evident that there is more concrete under the dirt and that there is more than one footer in the picture.....but look more closely at the other footer and the dirt in between the 2 (which I assume was piled to allow easy mobility for workers) and it appears that it is in alignment with the pictured footer!!
Here's what I mean:
Original
Anchor Bolts
Outline
Finished product

Of course I'm just basing this on what I see....I could be (and probably am:)) wrong. But IF Im right...then this is one HUGE footer!!


-Adam G- The OG Dragster nut

TTD 120mph's avatar

You beat me too it Mr.Ninja!!!!!!:)


-Adam G- The OG Dragster nut

That's a very good conservative representative of what could be there, but it's also a possibility that the footer extends even further back, out of the view of the camera, and has two more "tarped" anchor bolt sections that pop up out of the ground.


-Gannon
-B.S. Civil Engineering, Purdue University

TTD 120mph's avatar

That would make it one big*** footer.......pardon my french.:)


-Adam G- The OG Dragster nut

Gomez's avatar

Wow, I can't believe you guys saw that. I posted that picture of El Toro not to compare size but to show that Intamin woodies use the bolts as steel coasters would.

At least we're doing more than guessing here. The people on Coasterbuzz can't get off of Diving Coaster, Woodie, Flyer talk. Let's keep this non random guessing talk going on.


-Craig-
2008:Magnum XL-200 | Top Thrill Dragster
2007:Corkscrew | Magnum XL-200 | Maverick

Lets not forget how often we see any kind of ride, often B&M rides, that have several supports anchored in one spot. I believe that Mantis does this a lot. One "block" will have 2 or 3 different support beams anchored to it.

never fails for CP to keep me excited and anxious!

Hey Adam, that was one heck of an observation, so Kudos on it. But I think it is a little deeper than you outlined in your picture. Here is where I think the back boundary is from what I can tell of the picture. (red dotted line)

http://photobucket.com/albums/y7/BlueStreak64/?action=view&current=BT04.jpg


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