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TTD is sinking too! said:
There's no way Cedar Fair's liability rises doing what I've suggested. It would likely fall substantially.

If Intamin redesigns the seat or the safety system and there's a failure, Intamin will bear the brunt of the responsibility.

And it would all fall back on the park the second Intamin said, "Well, they wanted us to alter the system from what we considered to be 'safe.'"

Granted, one would hope that Intamin would not make any changes that they thought would potentially leave the ride unsafe, even if pressured by the park.

*** Edited 10/27/2006 2:26:55 PM UTC by DBCP***

And they wouldn't make unsafe changes. But the point is, when an accident happens, blame has to be placed somewhere, and the easiest scapegoat for it would be CP in this case, since they'd have requested those changes be made.

Are you saying there's no way to safely design a coaster that 280 lb men and 210 lb women can ride? How does Six Flags do it? How does Disney do it? You're letting Intamin off easy, just like Cedar Fair did.

Since Cedar Fair requested the coaster in the first place, I guess (by your logic) any problem that could possibly occur would be their fault too.

You're missing the point completely. It's not that it can't be done, it's that there's too much of a liability problem with doing it. Intamin and Cedar Fair are not in the business of intentionally making rides that exclude certain people, but at the same time, they're not in the business of setting themselves up for a possible lawsuit.

ADDED: That's ridiculous, so allow me to repeat myself: You're missing the point completely.

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*** Edited 10/27/2006 3:19:00 PM UTC by djDaemon***

TTD is sinking too! said:
How does Six Flags do it? How does Disney do it? You're letting Intamin off easy, just like Cedar Fair did.

How many of those other places are in Ohio? Different state laws produce different results. In Ohio, Cedar Point has a requirement to follow manufacturer standards. That may or may not be the case in other states.

They have to take what Intamin gives them, and by telling Intamin to change their standards, they shift liability.

All of this is a moot point. Cedar Point obviously has bought another coaster from Intamin, and they obviously haven't gotten Intamin to change their recommendations.

It is what it is.

-brian, who just barely fits in MF, and so wishes it weren't so.