Mantis removal or transformation?

eefeene said:

or maybe the tab labelled floorless?

http://www.bolliger-mabillard.com/product/floorless-coaster

Donno, I think the hyper trains match better with what they would be replacing. Floorless, floored, just a sit-down to me in either case.

Of course if they torn it down and sold the scraps in the stores I'd consider it an improvement. I liked the ride when it opened but after the scarf break was inserted into the first hill and just from the let-down the ride turns into after the first loop I didn't bother going back.

TwistedWicker77 said:
No matter what happens, I just hope they don't fill the rails with sand on Mantis. I love the loud roar as the train flies by. I honestly think Mantis is louder than Raptor. Who doesn't love a nice and loud B&M roar?

I 100% agree with that. Raptor and mantis wouldn't be the same without the roar. I think gatekeeper sounds kinda stupid. You can hear the roar wants to come out but it cant. It just lets out that dumb annoying clicking sound.

You're gonna hear me rooooooooooar!

How about a dive coaster with a splash down area?

Well I think a dive machine would be great in that area. Something with a splash :)

And for those in doubt on tike for removal and building a new coaster. There's plenty of time during the off season.

Yeah, I really like not having a conversation on the midway because the roar is drowning everything out. Not to mention that it gets annoying when riding also. I love the lack of sound on Gatekeeper, but maybe I'm just a throwback to the days when the Blue Streak and Satellite Jets were the loudest rides in the park.

@TonyClarkCP:

Btw, u have 13 operating days left to ride Mantis before it leaves our ride lineup forever. #CPMantis #LastStand

-Still sounds an awful lot like a complete removal. Seriously.

Still sounds very vague to me.

I heard a little birdie say floorless.

djDaemon said:

NextGen89 said:
This statement may seem rediculous.. but It is TOTALLY Feasable to fit a 4 to 500 footer using Mantis' footprint..if they remove SRF.

The questions surrounding a 400-500 foot coaster have never been about "where" or "how", but rather "why".

It just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to build a lift hill that high, or even a coaster that goes that fast. Look at Maverick, consistently one of the most popular rides in the park, standing at a mere ~100 feet.

I often wonder if the "OMFG 500 footer FTW!!!" crowd isn't compensating for some shortcoming of their own. ;)

Is a 400, 500, or even a 700 ft coaster really going to make that much of a difference to justify its cost compared to a 300ft?

I also often wonder about compensation for certain shortcoming regarding certain people in this here forum. ;)

magdrag95 said:
@TonyClarkCP:

Btw, u have 13 operating days left to ride Mantis before it leaves our ride lineup forever. #CPMantis #LastStand

-Still sounds an awful lot like a complete removal. Seriously.

No more substance to that thought than any other given. Just speculation until it isn't.

I just feel like TTD is the centerpiece of the skyline. I dont think CP will ever go taller and if they do then not for a very long time

Walt said:

Pete said:
Me, I hate the loud roar.

Back in the 90s, I spent dozens of hours trimming rose bushes and pulling weeds under Raptor. I got real good at tuning it out. :)

I wonder if Mantis's loud roar was why they gave it the original name, Banshee, since it howls like a spirit of the sort?

CPJim123 said:
I think Mantis is sinking. That is why it is being squashed.

LOL!

for those talking about the heartline being wrong, check this out. I did my best to try to scale these the same.
http://i.imgur.com/jJxcOs8.gif

....I'd say its pretty darn close

Mantis will be easily dismantled as it was assembled:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TSAtTm8fjw

kylepark said:
Mantis will be easily dismantled as it was assembled:

Nuke it from orbit.

It's the only way to be sure.

Also remember when Tony and Bryan tweeted at the same time to "take a ride" on Mean Streak and Mantis respectively with links to the POV videos. At least one of those was foreshadowing.

TheMedic said:
Also remember when Tony and Bryan tweeted at the same time to "take a ride" on Mean Streak and Mantis respectively with links to the POV videos. At least one of those was foreshadowing.

Yes, of the kvetching over the 2016 announcement! :)

I think they are not removing the Mantis. If they were going to remove it, they would not have "shut it down permanently" on October 19th. They are going to remove the awful stand-up trains and replace them with floorless trains or traditional sit-down cars. That's why they are saying that the Mantis will be "squashed," as in "squishing down the seats." In the video, you hear the grim reaper say: "Ever wonder why you're not supposed to stand up ON THE MANTIS?" Their slogan is "take one last stand" for a reason...It all points to a re-theme in honor of Lebron James's return to Cleveland and major maintenance on the track and seats. No where in Cedar Point's video, tweets, or statements do they say anything saying that they are going to "demolish" Mantis. I really hope that if my theory is not correct and they do end up tearing Mantis down that they replace it with something for thrill seekers. I think we will be the first park to go over 500 feet, but I do not foresee that happening for at least another 1-2 years. Tony Clark may have jokingly put a to-do list on his Twitter saying things about AquaTrax, Tunnel into Lake Erie, a boardwalk, and going over 500 feet but I think those things are never completely impossible. I hope for a 4D coaster sometime as well but I mean, who knows what CP will come up with next.

It made sense that they didn't announce it until the day after Labor Day - it's part of their advertising for Halloweekends. If they announced it before hand, people would try to get into the park to ride Mantis during the off season because every thinks Halloweekends is always crowded.

But if you announce Mantis is going away right before Halloweekends, , it forces people to come during that time to ride it a few times, as well as check out the new haunts.