Walt said:
Auditor07 said:
However, from what I've gathered most of the people who post on here seem like the cookies and kool-aid type.Otherwise known as the mature type who can manage to have fun without binge drinking? Different strokes, I guess.
There's nothing wrong with going to a party, having some drinks, and relaxing with your friends. But there seems to be some people (not necessarily anyone here) who take that to entirely different level, and then shoot for nothing else. Honestly, you'd think that lifestyle would get old eventually. That sounds a lot more boring that cookies and Kool-aid!
In Jenny's defense, she is young and probably looking to enjoy her new parent-free life. I say let her get crazy if that's what she wants to do. If she gets out of control then let the cops deal with it. No one wants a bunch of buzz-kills preaching at them about how their lifestyle is "immature". And by "cookies and Kool-Aid" that's exactly who I was referring to is the buzz-kills.
Yes, binge drinking does get old when you get to be my age (29). Not when you're young like she is though.
I know what your saying Auditor07, but drinking to excess can lead to serious problems. For example STD's/pregnacy, drunk driving, and violent/illegal behavior.
While it might be a buzz kill to intervene, some might feel obliged to try and prevent potentials from blowing it. It's better to know the risks before taking them and screwing yourself then it is get a nasty suprise. I personally would like to see everyone have as good a time as possible without screwing themselves over.
RubberDucky said:
Jump to Conclusions said:
I know what your saying Auditor07, but drinking to excess can lead to serious problems. For example STD's/pregnacy, drunk driving, and violent/illegal behavior.While it might be a buzz kill to intervene, some might feel obliged to try and prevent potentials from blowing it. It's better to know the risks before taking them and screwing yourself then it is get a nasty suprise. I personally would like to see everyone have as good a time as possible without screwing themselves over.
I love your screenname lol jk but if shes 18 she can make her own decisions. + she didnt say she was getting wasted, she just claimed party. Ever been to a party and didnt drink? have you ever partied and not drank...i have
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Jenny I don't mean to be rude but I feel that this trend is incredibly inappropriate. I worked at Cedar Point last season, I am returing this year and yeah, I like to have a good time, but for you to log on to a Cedar Point fan site and bluntly state that your looking to stay up late and be crazy, it is immediatly assumed that your going to drink and attend work the next day. When I read trends like these I (and I'm sure many others) assume that you work in rides, or the thought at least crosses our minds. I'm not going to go into any details but do you see what kind of image this puts in to others minds. I really don't think this is the kind of image we are trying to portray to our guests. I take great pride in any work I do and I'm am proud to work for Cedar Point who as an amazing saftey record. Saftey is our #1 priority at Cedar Point and if your going to joining our team I suggest you get this stuck into your head.
*** Edited 4/9/2007 10:02:08 PM UTC by MagnumXL85***
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So, if you were her supervisor, you'd be just fine with one of your employees partying it up every night?
I didn't think so.
So she shows up on time every day after partying? Yeah, that'll slowly work it's way closer and closer to start time and eventually turn into being late. Worse yet, coming in still drunk.
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Loopy said:
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So, if you were her supervisor, you'd be just fine with one of your employees partying it up every night?I didn't think so.
So she shows up on time every day after partying? Yeah, that'll slowly work it's way closer and closer to start time and eventually turn into being late. Worse yet, coming in still drunk.
As long as their behavior isn't affecting their job, there is no reason their supervisor should be worrying about their personal life.
If you're under 21, use caution. Underage possession in the dorms and apartments can get you fired. I was 18 when I worked at CP (22 now) and did take part in drinking/partying/etc. It never affected my job. Most nights I'd be too tired to take part in any Louie's nights other than things such as Crew nights.
And please, all those people who are trying to be these people's mothers and fathers, drop it. They're adults and can make their own decisions. No one who is drunk will be allowed to work and it will never affect the safety of your visit. Please keep the moral and legal-talk to yourself because it's disrespectful to take shots at someone's lifestyle or choices.
They put their lifestyle out there for everyone to scrutinize.
If they don't want to be criticized, they shouldn't come on a public forum and post 43 different posts and start 14 new threads about how they want to party and shop.
If I came on here and posted about how I want to take on-ride photos and stand up on coasters, you'd be an idiot not to think you're going to get criticized.
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Do you criticize those who march in Gay Pride parades? Should they be insulted for such?
Respect's a 2-way street.
What the hell does that have to do with what we're talking about?
I mean, seriously, think about that for at least 5 seconds.
I think someone needs to differentiate between criticism and an insult.
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How did gay pride marchers make it into this thread? I'm confused.
I also didn't see anyone on here insulting Jenny. They were just advising her to be careful or she'd get fired. Way to jump to conclusions though (its not even your screen name!!).
Loopy said:
What the hell does that have to do with what we're talking about?I mean, seriously, think about that for at least 5 seconds.
I think someone needs to differentiate between criticism and an insult.
*** Edited 4/10/2007 12:09:08 AM UTC by Loopy***
You indicate that you feel those who make their choices in life public are then open to receive any criticism.
It's very simple: the average employee at Cedar Point is college aged and will do what college aged kids do. She did not indicate that she does heroin just that she liked having fun. Everyone jumped on to her case saying how she'd be fired and one went as far to say that they did not wish her to be operating the ride for her family.
She wasn't looking for judgment, just friends.
I was the first response in this thread and it wasn't to criticize Jenny or detract from her having a good time. I hope she enjoys her time at CP. I didn't even assume she would be drinking. I just worry about my family's safety when I know people have been up all night and then the next day are operating the rides.
In Jenny's case, she will not be in rides. Regardless, staying alert on the job, ride op or not, is critical to the safety of the guests, as well as yourself.
Not preaching, 'cause I've been there, done that. Just asking you all to use your heads when pulling all-nighters. Party all you want, just do it with my family's safety in mind.
I think this might be the first time in my life I've ever been accused of being part of the "cookies and Kool-Aid" crowd....though they are tasty....
I stand by what I said, though. If you "act crazy" (and those are her exact words) then you will not have a job for very long. And yes, I am judging that, because her acting crazy in housing affects my ability to do my job. If she's up all night and is too exhausted to work effectively the next day, she's screwing her crew and making their jobs more difficult.
No one is saying not to have a good time. Really. This job IS supposed to be fun, and it is. But "acting crazy" (drinking or no) and staying up all night (at least too often 0:-) ) is usually not conducive to being a good employee, which is why you're there. We're not trying to be lame or spoil anyone's good time, just hopefully trying to give people a heads-up and prevent them from ruining their summer. Most of the people who replied have worked more than one summer and know what it's like, and what the myths are.
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It appears that the moral majority brigade is out in force... Again...
Will college age adults drink heavily? A lot of them will. A large minority will not. Is there anything wrong with it? Not at all.
I just love the specious safety references. I see them as an attempt to demonize alcohol use. A drunk employee will not be allowed to work. Most of the jobs at Cedar Point are non-safety related.
My entire summer was a binge. I was never late to work and never missed. There were some days that our entire zone was hungover.. But the job always got done. We had none of that drug testing nonsense and a very relaxed atmosphere about drinking. The police were in fact helpful and not obnoxious in 1980. Times have changed...
There are plenty of barriers to binge drinking at Cedar Point nowadays...
kredjet said:
I just love the specious safety references. I see them as an attempt to demonize alcohol use. A drunk employee will not be allowed to work. Most of the jobs at Cedar Point are non-safety related.
If you're responding to my concerns for safety, you're reading too much into my posts. I know drunk employees will not be allowed to work. The posts were about being alert enough to catch the safety issues that do occur. I've never felt unsafe, but things happen.
You were at CP in 1980? Then you are about my age and should be old enough to realize that alertness and safety go hand in hand. ANY job nowadays stresses this. I own a small business and I stress this.
Again, not being a killjoy, and I think Live E said it best on page 1. Something like, "Keep the balance."
BTW, EVERY job at CP is somehow safety related.
Drug testing nonsense? Why is that a bad thing?
Nonsense is the idea that society should accept that college students binge drink. That it is part of the "experience." What part of being free of parental supervision and being on your own for the first time needs to include throwing up in the corner? How is that a good time? And we all know that getting wasted has no effect on behavior, right?
There is a HUGE difference between "demonizing" alcohol use - which no one here is doing - and showing a concern for alcohol abuse. Have fun. Go to parties. Drink if you want. But don't accept that alcohol abuse and being hungover need to be part of a good summer experience.
"Most of the jobs at Cedar Point are non-safety related."
Name them.
I can't think of one job at Cedar Point that doesn't need to be concerned with safety.
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Chief Wahoo said:
"Most of the jobs at Cedar Point are non-safety related."Name them.
I can't think of one job at Cedar Point that doesn't need to be concerned with safety.
Night office cleaners :p
but that is really about it.
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I assume you are joking...but even the night office cleaners need to be safety conscious. They use cleaning equipment, do heavy moving/lifting, use ladders, have a variety of cleaning chemicals, have to worry about sharps and bioharzards, etc, etc, etc.
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-Walt Disney
To the credit of the people I see working the rides, I've never noticed someone so hung over that I felt they were not alert.
I think you quickly learn how much you can drink the night before and still function properly the next day, or you will get fired soon.
Saying that, why would anyone in their right mind want to be totally sh** faced the night before when they know they are facing a 12 hour work day? The physical pain just isn't worth that.
Jenny needs to realize that she is working for a multi-million dollar company who's reputation to the general public is extremely important. She is Cedar Point to the guests, and the guests expect pleasant, alert people who take an interest in their experience and safety. She sounds like she should be taking the ferry to Put-In-Bay, not working at CP. If that is the case, she won't last long.
I'd rather be in my boat with a drink on the rocks,
than in the drink with a boat on the rocks.
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