The area is likely to remain for employee usage for now. Long term the space will become part of a new attraction. Current facilities in that area that border the park are becoming rapidly outdated. Bottom line when corkscrew ends it's time that a area plus the former foot print of corkscrew would nicely fit a well designed major attraction in prime real estate. Maint. Will move to inside Mean Streak/off point where land is available. Linen Services will be relocated possibly as part of the Breakers Renovation. The Cedars will soon fall as well 2-3 years for Marina Expansion as well as minimum additional park land.
Maintenance will not move off point. As it turns out, it makes sense to locate your maintenance department by the things that need maintenance.
The Maria will not expand into the space vacated by Cedars either. Another funny little quirk of the universe is how you don't take land on a limited landmass surrounded by water and make more water out of it.
Girl: "l want to ride that yellow one again... Twisted Wicker"
Me: "It's a roller coaster, not a broken clothes hamper."
Corkscrew will never leave, so forget that idea.
Maintenance will move off point on Cleveland Road or on First Street. They will never put maintenance inside Mean Streak.
Laundry (Linen Services) will move behind Breakers Express where they already have a large laundry facility.
That frees up a lot of room for park expansion or more hotel parking. My guess is about 2016.
We-o-we-oooo said:
Maintenance will not move off point. As it turns out, it makes sense to locate your maintenance department by the things that need maintenance.The Maria will not expand into the space vacated by Cedars either. Another funny little quirk of the universe is how you don't take land on a limited landmass surrounded by water and make more water out of it.
Maintenance can very easily be split into two locations with the bulk moving off point and a smaller shop on point. Inside MS is prime as it is very difficult to use the space for much else and is already a storage area for Maintenance. They could also take over current planning and design space which could be relocated to various sites on and off point.
As for the marina, it currently needs additional parking and the space could be used for offices and amenities for boaters. I could see another restaurant as well
As for Corkscrew...it's only a matter of time as operational and repair costs increase as well as condition decreases it seem inevitable. Steel coasters of that era do not have the life span of wooden coasters...easy to replace a few prices of wood. The fall of similar coasters should tell you the future of this coaster. Also the relocation of Power Towers entrance should show you the area is planned for something in combination with the gold dorms falling.
Or maybe they just moved the power tower entrance because it was hard to find, out of the way, and no need for that extra length on the queue.
So you're saying you can't keep up on old steel coasters..
Ok so the huge repaint of Corkscrew and it's station, the repaired footer before the break run in 2011, and all the other repairs made to the trains/track/station in the past few years that I know about and everything since '76 shows it's not taken care of and conditioning well yes?
The problem is finding replacement parts (which S&S is still around and other companies with close copycats of Arrow (see Vekoma), decreased rideship, and increased downtime..
Corkscrew, Power Tower, Magnum, & Monster/ Witches Wheel Crew 2011
So we are going to take maintenance from its centralized location, split it in two, placing one half at the extreme end of the park and the other over a mile away.
Because that makes total sense.
Girl: "l want to ride that yellow one again... Twisted Wicker"
Me: "It's a roller coaster, not a broken clothes hamper."
We-o-we-oooo said:
So we are going to take maintenance from its centralized location, split it in two, placing one half at the extreme end of the park and the other over a mile away.Because that makes total sense.
It makes a lot of sense...large amounts of the current space are used for storage of parts that are not commonly replaced, machining equipment that is also non essential on a daily basis can again move off point. It's not hard to make it from the rear of the park to any point via perimeter road. There is multiple exterior gates that allow easy access to most areas of the park. More important it's an efficient use of an highly under utilized space. The foot prong of the former dorms, current Maint./laundry facilities and corkscrew foot print is nearly exactly 5 acres the exact space needed for the current avg. CP coaster (nee. Gatekeeper and Maverick) more important it's a flexible space with a parking lot that can be manipulated as needed. Also if you haven't noticed they have already started moving facilities off point (Cleveland road Maint. Shop, Laundry facility behind breakers express, dorms. Follow the trend if they can transport that much laundry that far non essential Maint. Would be no issue (based on a sell out of all rooms/cabins/cottages approx. 1250 room with an avg of 15 pounds of laundry per room per night plus pool linens 10 tons of laundry transported back and forth daily...yea they can relocate things off point if they can do that
We-o-we-oooo said:
So we are going to take maintenance from its centralized location, split it in two, placing one half at the extreme end of the park and the other over a mile away.Because that makes total sense.
They've actually already done that.
Brandon
We-o-we-oooo said:
So we are going to take maintenance from its centralized location, split it in two, placing one half at the extreme end of the park and the other over a mile away.Because that makes total sense.
I'm not sure of your point. Maintenance is not akin to an ambulance service. It makes so little difference to travel one minute vs. 15 minutes to perform maintenance duties.
The shop inside of MS is mainly carpentry for what I know I've never been in that maint shop at all. The front shop is still used quite a bit, and again as a person mentioned it sits right in the middle of the park. Putting all on point maint @ MS doesn't sound like a great plan. Think what would happen if they needed people on GK? That'd be a fun stroll through the park or a little drive through breakers/ect. Being centralized does help alot
Corkscrew, Power Tower, Magnum, & Monster/ Witches Wheel Crew 2011
thedevariouseffect said:
The shop inside of MS is mainly carpentry for what I know I've never been in that maint shop at all. The front shop is still used quite a bit, and again as a person mentioned it sits right in the middle of the park. Putting all on point maint @ MS doesn't sound like a great plan. Think what would happen if they needed people on GK? That'd be a fun stroll through the park or a little drive through breakers/ect. Being centralized does help alot
True that it does take slightly longer to arrive walking to an attraction such as Gatekeeper but in most cases they drive around Perimeter road at this point to the Employee gate behind the games area. It would actually shorten the drive.
TheRealMaverick said:
thedevariouseffect said:
The shop inside of MS is mainly carpentry for what I know I've never been in that maint shop at all. The front shop is still used quite a bit, and again as a person mentioned it sits right in the middle of the park. Putting all on point maint @ MS doesn't sound like a great plan. Think what would happen if they needed people on GK? That'd be a fun stroll through the park or a little drive through breakers/ect. Being centralized does help alotTrue that it does take slightly longer to arrive walking to an attraction such as Gatekeeper but in most cases they drive around Perimeter road at this point to the Employee gate behind the games area. It would actually shorten the drive.
Who cares? Are you worried about them saving gas? Any square footage gained by off-pointing maintenance far outweighs any gas costs.
I'm not worried about gas, I'm worried about response times. Plus having access to supplies/tools/ect. on point needs to stay. Think of Cbus day weekend..imagine if maint. was off site.
Also again like I said I don't think it'll happen being the one shop is the on site carpentry shop as far as I know that's all it is and takes up that space well.
Corkscrew, Power Tower, Magnum, & Monster/ Witches Wheel Crew 2011
Scottyf said:
I'm not sure of your point. Maintenance is not akin to an ambulance service. It makes so little difference to travel one minute vs. 15 minutes to perform maintenance duties.
Tell that to the person who is stuck on the ride the entire time and threatens to beat you with a wrench if you don't get them off the ride right now.
Not over dramatizing. It happens far more than you realize.
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R.I.P. Fright Zone, and Cyrus along with it.
thedevariouseffect said:
The shop inside of MS is mainly carpentry for what I know I've never been in that maint shop at all. The front shop is still used quite a bit, and again as a person mentioned it sits right
Who cares? Are you worried about them saving gas? Any square footage gained by off-pointing maintenance far outweighs any gas costs.
No care in the world regarding the fuel. The square footage however in combination with the gold dorms(removed), linen services(the on point portion), and Corkscrew is roughly five acres the same space as Gatekeeper and Maverick sit on.
Why is everyone so happy to remove rides and stuff...
That's the part of enthusiasts I never understand.
Corkscrew, Power Tower, Magnum, & Monster/ Witches Wheel Crew 2011
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