Gas at $3.25,will affect attendance

Sorry, my sarcasm wasn't dripping enough off that statement.

Oh jeesh, let's get back on topic....how about..."the HIGH prices of Steel used to build Maverick because of gas prices" haha.

Anywho, I'm still happy with my 4-banger 4-speed car that averages 34m/g @ avg speed 73MPH. or 125km/h for you Canadians.

Will the gas prices affect my attendance? N to the O! NO! It will, however, refrain me from visiting the horrible McDonalds for some cold breakfast.

JuggaLotus said:
Sorry, my sarcasm wasn't dripping enough off that statement.

;)

Better luck next time :)

It won't affect me going to CP, but it will affect our budget, and cut into other area's of our budget, I think.

It jumped literally $.25 over night up here in Mount Pleasant. It was 3.00 even on Tuesday. -grumble-

JuggaLotus said:
I don't see the problem with people driving what they want to, whether its a 4-cylinder hybrid, an 8 cylinder 4x4 pickup or a 12 cylinder sports car. It's their choice, whether they "need" it or not.

That's lazy thinking and a cop out. The far reaching affects on our economy, being oil dependent, could crush our nation in the long run, to say nothing of that fact that we'll turn NY, San Francisco and Miami into Venice.

Most of the bigger gas hogs already pay a premium at purchase.

Wrong. Most SUV's are classified by a loophole as being for business, and therefore not subject to the penalty.

And what bigger picture is there? That gas prices will climb as long as we don't build new refineries and allow foreign countries to provide us with oil? What about the part of the picture that shows the US is sitting on 3 of the largest stockpiles in the world (Alaska, Rockies and Gulf of Mexico)? We could EASILY provide ourselves with enough oil to cut off the Arab states.

Wrong again. That piss poor theory implies that our oil consumption will not increase, and that we could start using said oil tomorrow. Neither of those situations is true. Those oil supplies would contribute single percentage points toward our overall oil consumption. Besides, which part of destroying one of the last natural preserves we have is a good idea?

You don't need a Hummer to buy groceries and take the kids to soccer practice.

What floors me is that there is so much money to be made in the area of alternative energy that it's staggering no one will step forward and go for it. The oil companies, in the long run, are going to be as obsolete as typewriters.

djDaemon said:
^^ With regard to the guzzler tax, I think it should be higher, or apply to more vehicles, or both. Based on how often I see 6000 lbs of steel carrying 120 lbs of human, people are too willing to pay for that "privilege".

I live on an indian reservation, technically. One with a casino. Now, I can say from experiance, people with money are definetly willing to buy the bigger, better vehicle.

I'd say for the population of this town, the amount of Escalades & Hummer's is probably higher than the average town by 50%. You can't drive down the main road end to end (about a 5 mile stretch) without seeing at least 4 of each.

It's ridiculous that people are willing to waste money like that, but to each their own, I suppose.

We were a 1 car family for about 9 years, and have only recently invested in a 2nd car. My husband got a job working over an hour away, which left me carless all day with 3 kids. Plus, our main vehicle is a mini-van which is a gas guzzler. For the week where he had to drive that back and forth, he was dropping $100 a week in gas into it, and that was when gas was $2.80/gallon.

Then we managed to buy a tiny lil escort, which is saving us about $40 a week in gas, compared to before. Now with the higher costs, it'll be less noticable in difference, but still much cheaper than the van would be now if we were driving that back and forth still.

Either way, I can't WAIT until June 8th when school is done, and we move from up here to down there. Gas will go from a $60-100 a week investment to a $20 a week investment. ;)

Destroying? The area proposed for drilling is less than 1% of the total land area of Alaska. Whenever there is talk of drilling in Alaska, everyone assumes that its going to turn the entire state into Flint and kill all the wildlife. That's just not the case.

I do agree with your last point though. The fact that no one has stepped forward yet is a bit of a surprise.

It's $2.99 here right now. I hear they're predicting around $4.50-$4.75 around 4th of July. Nothing can stop me :) I'll walk the 644.79 miles if I have to.

Nobody is going to step forward as long a Bush is in office. He wount give any funds to come with differant forms of energy. Why? because Bush owns an oil company. If he funds other ways to make energy hes losing money which is why we havent found alternative ways for fuel.

Too bad W doesn't control funding. Congress does. If they wanted to fund alternative fuel research, there is nothing he could do to stop it.

Yes he could veto, but they can override that.

George Bush has a final say on any bill.

Warriors -

The president CAN veto, Congress CAN override that veto.

The president CANNOT make any funding decisions without getting it approved by congress.

Congress CAN pass funding without approval of the president by overriding his veto.

So no, the president does NOT have the final say on bills that cross his desk.

After reading through more of this topic, I think we can all safely conclude the following:

Each person recieves different gas mileage because not everyone drives the same car, and putting down people for the car they drive is assinine, it's their choice, and until I see all oil companies go green, which I doubt will happen anytime soon, let people choose what they will. Some of us fly a helo, others drive an suv, and still others ride a bike. That doesn't change Americas oil addiction.

Pointing out anothers right to complain or not to complain is playing God, and thus defeating the purpose of this forum.

Gas prices are expected to be close to last summers average, in turn, we can conclude that gas prices will have relatively the same effect on CP attendance again, and with the many changes the park has implemented, will counteract any "slightly higher" gas prices.

Well said.

While not entirely related, this kind of reminds me of a recent blog entry from Seth Godin:

"The car makers continue to lobby hard, or even sue, over emission rules [ ... ] If I were Ford Motor, I'd lobby as hard as possible for the strictest emissions regime in the world. If you're losing the game, change the rules. Start over. Be the only major car company to produce 100% zpev or hybrid cars."

*** Edited 5/3/2007 10:07:06 PM UTC by Walt***

That's because unfortunately the auto makers want to make the cars that people want to buy. It's not because they can't make those cars, because they already do for most of the rest of the world.

mk522 said:
Each person recieves different gas mileage because not everyone drives the same car, and putting down people for the car they drive is assinine, it's their choice...

Yes, everyone likes to talk about what their rights are or their choices, but fail to consider the obligation and responsibility they have to everyone else. I don't understand why so many Americans can't see beyond their own nose to see that they not only will negatively impact themselves, but everyone else too. It's that thinking that causes us all to pay higher gas prices.

A recent poll conducted by Epic MRI stated that 60% of families say the high gas prices are hurting them.

When a different question was asked "would these high gas prices cause you to drive less?" Only 15% said yes.

Thats how screwed up many people are.

Just because its hurting you to drive more, it doesn't mean you will less. Maybe they won't less because they /need/ to drive how much they currently are, but won't drive more, ie to CP, because its too painful.

Gas will reach around $4 this summer....

http://www.philly.com/inquirer/business/20070424_Is__4_gas_heading_down_the_highway_.html

crazy horse said:
Gas will reach around $4 this summer....

http://www.philly.com/inquirer/business/20070424_Is__4_gas_heading_down_the_highway_.html

You make it sound like a fact.

Having said that, the midwest should NOT see $4. We'd have a hardcore recession before that happened. Come June, things will have settled down. *** Edited 5/4/2007 12:40:00 AM UTC by cedarpointr0x***