coaster final height

friction is constant provided there is no acceleration vertically or horizontally of the track. For example, no wind, no change in position in mass, just a cart moving at 10 m/s on a perfectly straight track, as long as the wheels and mechanisms holding them are 100% perfect, friction will be constant.

the coefficiant of friction is constant, except there would be different values for when the train is in contact with the track on what part of the rails, with which wheels.

Today we have a crane almost right next to the base of the tower with its main boom up almost vertical. It appears to be just about even with the top of the fourth level.

If we know the length of the main boom without the jib(s), we've got a very good method for measuring the tower.

I bringing this up because I think the numbers presented so far are optimistic. My estimates have been about 25% lower than previous "calculations".

Anyone with the CORRECT length of just the boom care to tell us how high the fourth level is?

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DanB

Well, Thats it...The tower is closing up from all 3 spikes. It will go to about 350....probably wont even reach 400 at the angle its going.

Edit- All measurements in Feet :)

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- Dennis
*** This post was edited by Big D 11/21/2002 4:42:12 PM ***

Just because the tower might not reach 400 feet, that doesn't mean the track won't reach over 400 feet.

DanB - that is one fine observation and I'll tell you why. About 6 weeks ago, one of the cranes was raised without the jib, and the boom appeared to be about 75' longer than the other crane which has not been changed. I went back and looked at webcam screen captures I made on 10/7 and 10/14. The taller one was lowered, modified to its current configuration and raised again a week later as a twin of the first. According to All Crane's website, the maximum boom height for these two cranes is 300'. If 75' was removed, then the booms are in the neighborhood of 225', thus making the spacing about 55'. (Gee, that number sounds sooooo familiar! But I won't gloat! I promise.) 8 x 55' = 440'.

DanB, that doesn't make sense. "Probably wont even reach 400 at the angle its going". At the angle it's going there would need to be 4 more sections of tower to connect at the top. So as far as measuring the angles then its gonna hit about 500 which aint gonna happen, not 350. It's going to angle in even more after the 7th level connecting after the 8th.

Peace I'm Out

Through the company that my father owns, a plumbing company, he must take classes every year to keep his masters license current. I the last class he was part of, the head maintnance manager was also in. And the numbers he gave were 430 feet to 460 feet tall, and speeds over 117 mph. just what I've heard take it or leave it.

Hey Andy are u blind, the ride has already broke the 300 foot mark and it will break 400 also. Just accept the fact that Cedar Point is building and will own the tallest rollercoaster of any type of layout on the planet. Odds are it will be near 425. Why not the physics work out so why not! The angle of the new level is on pace to be higher that 450, so it will probably angle in again but it will still break 400 easily. It's well above 300 now and the top-hat hasn't even begun to take an obvious shape!
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Wicked Twister is a great ride! Just because it looks simple soesn't mean it sucks! I wouldn't mind having it in my back yard!

I would like to apologize to DanB for the incorrect reference. I was talkin bout Big D's comment. And Joe, sorry for the misunderstanding, but I was saying that this thing will easily break 400. Sorry for all the misunderstandings and mis-statements.

Peace I'm Out

robert said:
Through the company that my father owns, a plumbing company, he must take classes every year to keep his masters license current. I the last class he was part of, the head maintnance manager was also in. And the numbers he gave were 430 feet to 460 feet tall, and speeds over 117 mph. just what I've heard take it or leave it.

Really? Next time you see him, thank him for breaching his confidentiality contract that he and about 49 others signed.

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Those who know don't tell, those who tell don't know

thus making the spacing about 55'

So people are trying to say that the tower is at about 385 ft? I don't think it's quite that high.

Hello everyone! I am a new poster here, but I have been reading this site for a while to get info on #16. (By far the best information on line btw) Anyway, I hope that I don't say anything too dumb, but I'm sure that if I do you all will help me learn. LOL

This post by Mach1 was very interesting. I am not going to quote the whole thing, but he concluded that the levels were between 50-52 feet each based on the following rule:

Mach1 said:
Refined calculations on current progress:
Basic laws of geometry state that if a camera is at a given height above the ground, and the "horizon" is at "infinity" (i.e. a distance many times that of "near" objects) then the horizon creates a plane at the altitude of the camera.

I was viewing the original "Guess What Beach Cam" and noticed that the top of the second level on #16, the second overbanked turn on Millennium Island, and the hill returning off MI all line up with the horizon in that shot. I can find no information on how high that hill on MF is, but the press release for MF says that that overbanked turn is 100 feet. If that is true, then each level should be around 50 feet confirming what Mach1 said. I am not sure if you can be that precise, but it should be right within a few feet. Does anyone know the height of that hill returning off MI is for further confirmation?

Very Very Interesting! Nice way to put it guys!

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"Twisted Sister" is the name of the new rollercoaster at Cedar Point for 2003. Just watch!

DANG!!!!................

http://members.accesstoledo.com/bwiatrak/85.jpg

Wow, that is one BIG crane. Two questions though, why would they be working on a Saturday, and why would they have it streched completely vertical like that?

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-Chris Woodard
"If you're standing in an uncomfortable position, that means you are in the right position because you are riding Mantis!" - Mantis ride op doing spiels on closing day.

Another one I saved from earlier today

http://members.accesstoledo.com/bwiatrak/86.jpg

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Great Ohio Coaster Club member #335

judubya, we need your help on this one. So far, I think your theories on height make the most sense. You also seem to know a lot about the cranes. I am interested in your opinions about the pic mentioned above

I dont see a pic above the page says "not found" when i click on it. is this happening to anybody else?