Chick-fil-A Ban

Can anyone recommend which email and snail mail addresses would be the best targets for letters to Cedar Point/Cedar Fair about this issue? I would like to go beyond the easy online contact form and forum post to voice my opinion. Hopefully there will enough of us that do so to get Chick-fil-la out of the park in a season or two.

Kyle2154 said:
Should a private church be forced to marry a gay couple? Even if churches try to stay out of it their hands may inevitably be forced as the slippery slope continues.

Is a jewish temple forced to marry a christian couple? Is a catholic church forced to marry non-catholics? Different religions establish their own rules for who can marry in their religion. That would not change if the government legally recognized same sex marriages/civil unions.

Kevinj said:
Marriage, in the legal sense, has nothing to do with a church, or any God. You can get married in a bathroom stall by a drunk ship captian, and it still counts...as long as you happen to be heterosexual.

That said, gay couples get married in churches in every state every day of the year. They are just not legally recognized. They're still in love, and are still married in the emotional sense.

Sorry GoBucks, for the confusion. :)

You missed my point. If you were gay, and dreamed of a beautiful wedding at this beautiful church down the road (afterall I'm assuming gay people desire a nice, classic wedding), however the only reason you cannot get married at this private church is because you are gay. You may get legally married, just down at the courthouse. Would this be fair? If you're going to be so aggresive towards other opinions at least understand the dynamic of the issue.

But that church is under no obligation to just marry anyone. In fact, most churches will not marry you unless you are a member. My wife initially wanted to get married in the church she grew up in (it's beautiful), but alas, we were denied because we are not "members".

You don't just pick a church. That said, I have attended many glorious weddings of gay men and women in some beautiful churches. Some are open, and some are not.

I'm with Kevin on this one. No matter who is getting married it is still up to the Church if they will allow it. That should have no bearing on if they should be allowed to be married somewhere else.

But the problem is not the church, its the law. I couldn't care less what churches do. if they want to be hypocrites than that's their choice. What I care about is the law that is currently based on hate and intolerance. This needs changed and Chick-fil-A puts money toward keeping this law as it and and keeping gay people down. That's why they are evil, and need to be unassociated with Cedar Point/Cedar Fair.

Yes, Kevin, that's precisely the problem.

I mentioned the churches specifically, as many people are under the assumption that gay individuals do not get married in Ohio. That's false...they get married in churches, parks, etc. all over Ohio every day. Weddings. Best men, pastors, priests, bridesmaids, invitations, showers, receptions, the whole nine yards...

They just don't get to go to the courthouse, pay the 50 bucks, and get the piece of paper that entitles them to the hundreds of legal benefits heterosexuals get when they get married.

Incidentally, it's worth noting that Ohio is known as one of many "hypocrite" states, where a gay couple can adopt children, but cannot get married. How sick is that?

tcgolfer said:
I'm with Kevin on this one. No matter who is getting married it is still up to the Church if they will allow it.

Agreed. There plenty of churches that are accepting of people of all walks of faith and lack thereof.

That said, it does bother me that churches funded by my tax dollars can deny me or anyone else access. That doesn't feel right. But it's not a big deal in the scheme of things.

I would prefer two classes of church. If the church is tax-exempt, they must allow anyone access. If a church wants to limit their services to only their members, they can pay taxes. Seems like a logical compromise to me.

Agreed Dj, which is why I'm happy that I go to one of the 'good' churches.

My biggest thing is this. How does allowing gay people to get married affect your every day life? It doesn't.

Those who are afraid gay marriage may negatively impact their hetero marriage must have a pretty shaky marriage to begin with.

I say we all just start a new Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster and see how long it would take for us to become tax exempt!

If a church takes tax money, than they should be required to follow federal mandates set aside for them such as equality.

KevinL332

If a church takes tax money, than they should be required to follow federal mandates set aside for them such as equality.

Which is saying exactly what I said. Under that logic churches would be forced to marry a gay couple.

only a church that takes government funding. if they don't want to than that's fine but they don't get the federal funds

Here is a video for everyone to watch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duUIxPu3Wzo&feature=relmfu

Walt said:
The TSA is a bigot? :)

Duh, Walt, that's for the shooting thread.

I love that the thread has turned into a discussion of word definitions, like when Bill "What The Meaning of Is Is" Clinton was humping his intern. Can't it just be distilled to, "People who use money to oppress other people are dicks?"

Religion only matters in the discussion when others attempt to impose its beliefs on others.

tcgolfer said:
How does allowing gay people to get married affect your every day life? It doesn't.

You'd think this would end the discussion and we'd all be able to go on with our lives.

tcgolfer said:
How does allowing gay people to get married affect your every day life? It doesn't.

You'd think this would end the discussion and we'd all be able to go on with our lives.

That's a pretty simplistic way to look at anything.

How does someone that is adamently opposed to gay marriage expressing his views affect your everyday life? It doesn't.

Unless, of course, it was someone with a lot of power to actually affect change, like the President. But, he was a fundamentally evil and hateful man up until a 2 months ago according to some on here.

The President was either: A) always for gay marriage but didn't think it would help him politically until now. Or B) actually against it but he thinks it might help him politically.

Either way he is dishonest and will only make a decision based on how it will affect him politically, not based on if he thinks it is right or wrong.

Kevinj said:
They just don't get to go to the courthouse, pay the 50 bucks, and get the piece of paper that entitles them to the hundreds of legal benefits heterosexuals get when they get married.

Hundreds of legal benefits of being married? Maybe I missed something.

Observer2000 said:
How does someone that is adamently opposed to gay marriage expressing his views affect your everyday life? It doesn't.

It doesn't, but I'm not on here telling you that you're views are wrong and that you can't express them. Which would be the equivalent of not allowing homosexuals to marry.

The difference is that even though their marriage would not negatively effect you or your life in any way shape or form you still seek to ensure they can't have it. I'm not doing the same to you.

KevinL332 said:
only a church that takes government funding. if they don't want to than that's fine but they don't get the federal funds

So should a catholic church that takes government funding (whatever that means) be required to marry a jewish couple?