Chick-fil-A Ban

Observer2000 said:
Do you accept/agree with polygamy?

So long as all parties entered into the marriage contract under their own free will, I have absolutely no objection.

Just to play Devil's Advocate here...

The dictionary's (as opposed to Wikipedia) definition of Bigotry is as follows:

"Noun, - Stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one's own."

That being said, wouldn't it be true that BOTH sides of the argument are included in this bigotry?

Chick-Fil-A supporters are stubborn in their beliefs that the traditional definition of marriage should stay, whereas Chick-Fil-A opposers are just as stubborn in their beliefs of marriage equality.

The true definition of bigotry is keeping your mind so closed that you don't even care to see the other side of the argument. ... and both sides are guilty of that.

I believe that what people do in their own bedroom is up to them, and I feel that we live in a country that should not deny basic rights to any of their citizens (unless they are jailed... lol).

Yes, EVERYONE is a bigot. Bigotry is "stubborn and complete intolerance of ANY creed, belief or opinion that differ's from one's own."

Unless everyone agreed with everyone else in the world on absolutely everything, EVERYONE is a bigot. I am a bigot because I am completely intolerant of Al Qaeda's beliefs and opinions regarding the United States.

Observer2000 said:
I am a bigot because I am completely intolerant of Al Qaeda's beliefs and opinions regarding the United States.

I guess that's ok ;)

The "intolerance of intolerance" fallacy was addressed already, by BreakTrims.

Oh, so you decide what is "intolerant" and what isn't "intolerant." Yes, keep calling everyone a bigot who doesn't support gay marriage. Your argument keeps getting stronger and stronger.

I AM A BIGOT. I support gay marriage, but have complete intolerance and stubbornness for/against many liberal fiscal policies/beliefs/opinions.

Vehemently disagree and voice your opinion. I love debates/arguments. But, in my experience, name calling and throwing around inciteful words like "fundamentally evil" and "bigotry" isn't going to get anyone very far.

I got into a debate about this yesterday on another forum. I got called a heterophobe for being for gay rights scratches head. Confused me because I'm straight...

My opinion on the matter is simple. I don't agree with there stance so I won't eat there. Besides the fact I am not a big fan of chicken so I have never eaten there period I prefer kfc biscuits over chicken.

Jeff said:
If their behavior seeks to limit the liberty of others, or otherwise paint people as being less human, yes, absolutely.

The TSA is a bigot? :)

Since everyone seems to be throwing around logical fallacies, I thought this could be useful as a reference.

I like chicken too, bholcomb. Too much that I'm not going to stop eating at Chic Fil A because of a statement they have made. I must be a bigot then.

^Eating at Chick-fil-A doesn't make you a bigot. Now, if you had stubborn and complete intolerance of their beliefs and opinions.... then you'd be a bigot.

The way the word bigot is being used in this sense requires a broader definition...

"one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance"

In the social sciences, it's used to describe one who targets someone because of a characteristic about someone, especially one in a minority group.

In other words, you don't hire blacks because of their skin color. Bigot.

Trying to pass discriminatory laws against gay people because of their sexual orientation? Bigot. It's no different than supporting a law that blocks women from voting, or blacks from voting, etc...we have a rich history of stopping bigotry through laws, Chick-fil-A is supporting the legalization of bigotry.

It's not Christian to oppose gay marriage. See the millions of church-goers, Catholics, priests, nuns, pastors, etc., who support it.

There is a universally accepted definition of what is and what is not christian?

Kevinj said:
It's not Christian to oppose gay marriage. See the millions of church-goers, Catholics, priests, nuns, pastors, etc., who support it.

Couldn't agree more! Christianity isn't about hate, it's about love. Period.

^Eating at Chick-fil-A doesn't make you a bigot.

Correct. You're just supporting it, and enabling bigotry.

What I meant, GoBucks, is that being a Christian does not mean you oppose gay marriage. Do many use Christianity as an excuse to discriminate? Yes...they have since the beginning. West Baptist Ministry, for example...

In fact, some of the greatest allies of the LGBT community are heterosexual Christians, or people of other faiths. On our campus, we have the Gay-Straight Alliance (it's also a nationwide thing). Many assume this is a "gay" club, when in fact the current student leader is a straight, Christian female.

I understand that there are christians who support same sex marriages. But there are millions of churchgoers, catholics, priests, nuns, pastors, etc. (and the Vatican which last time I was an active catholic was the end all and be all of catholic dogma) who oppose same sex marriages and who do so based on their faith. I am just asking how do you know which group is correct? What makes one group's view christian and the other's unchristian?

I wasn't saying one is Christian and one isn't...like any other faith, there are myriad interpretations.

I don't care which one is correct. I couldn't care less what God anyone prays to. This is about laws that discriminate, not which version of a religion you adhere to.

I'll be on the side of tolerance and acceptance.

It is possible to be on both sides. For instance, you're a christian and have no problem with gay marriage, but the marriage has to take place somewhere. Should a private church be forced to marry a gay couple? Even if churches try to stay out of it their hands may inevitably be forced as the slippery slope continues.

Kevinj said:
It's not Christian to oppose gay marriage. See the millions of church-goers, Catholics, priests, nuns, pastors, etc., who support it.

Guess that is what confused me. I thought you were saying its not christian to oppose gay marriage.

Marriage, in the legal sense, has nothing to do with a church, or any God. You can get married in a bathroom stall by a drunk ship captian, and it still counts...as long as you happen to be heterosexual.

That said, gay couples get married in churches in every state every day of the year. They are just not legally recognized. They're still in love, and are still married in the emotional sense.

Sorry GoBucks, for the confusion. :)