Cedar Point Announces New Water Ride for 2010 Season

2 words;

Disaster Transport

There is absolutely no defending that embarrassment if you're looking at the deterioration of theming on a ride.

Until there is new management in place with a different vision, this will never change. But, with CP it's a "like it or leave it" situation right now; it's not trying to be Dollywood or Busch Gardens, it's trying to be the best amusement park in the world, and I think its doing a fairly good job at that.

STR is not trying to be Splash Mountain, it's trying to be a fun flume with moderate theming.

Or some bull crap like that.

Yeah, safety of guests is bull crap.

Let's just face it. If it was really an issue with safety they wouldn't of installed it in the first place. Anyone who tells you otherwise is full of it.

The thing is...CP puts in so much effort in keeping their rides up and running with good capacity. I mean, just look at how they overcame the hurdles of TTD.

But, as soon as a themed tire falls off the train, they quickly eliminate them permanently, which made the whole ride kind of lose its identity. How difficult or costly could it have really been to come up with a safe solution?

In Cedar Point's defense, there is a lot you don't know until you actually run the ride for the first time. Even after testing, it may be different once people are on it. I thought the tires and engine were removed on TTD to limit the weight on the rear of the train in an effort to get the train over the hill and increase the capacity.

I do think that a lot of Cedar Point's themeing does fall through after a few years. Hopefully we will be proven wrong and it will be more than expected!

EvilChameleon09 said:
Let's just face it. If it was really an issue with safety they wouldn't of installed it in the first place. Anyone who tells you otherwise is full of it.

Yes, because engineers never make mistakes or overlook how one thing (gas pedal) may not interact as intended with another (floor mat).

- dj "full of it" Daemon

Could somebody reboot the cams please.....

Are those over flow drains or water bombs in picture #13 of the new construction set?!

http://www.cedarpoint.com/public/park/rides/water/shoot_the_rapids/images/str10_construction_031210.cfm

Edit: Wait, I think that is the 'land' portion of the mini-island, that wouldn't make much sense.

I believe the pipes you are referring to are part of the rock area with the water falls as shown in the rendering( which would make those supply lines and electrical conduit)... there are however also some pipes located i the splash pool area that i anticipate being water bombs and/or fountains.

I imagine those pipes will supply water for the waterfall (or whatever) to be built on that island's "rock work".

djDaemon said:

Yes, because engineers never make mistakes or overlook how one thing (gas pedal) may not interact as intended with another (floor mat).

- dj "full of it" Daemon

Sorry. You don't install a smoke-creating device and hope that it doesn't set off smoke detectors. You don't install it period.

Good point (not really). If being a Monday Morning Quarterback was an actual job, you'd be an ideal candidate.

EvilChameleon09 said:
Sorry. You don't install a smoke-creating device and hope that it doesn't set off smoke detectors. You don't install it period.

So, what you're saying is that we'd be back to where we are now, with no fog effects in the tunnel?

So what was the issue with trying it in the first place?

And if employee visibility was part of the issue, how would you suggest fixing that and keeping the mist? Its not as simple as enthusiasses would like to think it is.

I hear thermal goggles work wonders at seeing through smoke.

EvilChameleon09 said:
I hear thermal goggles work wonders at seeing through smoke.

So instead of just being completely safe by shutting of a hazard you want to spend money and create another one? Thermal goggles cost money. Then you would have to make sure each crew member knew how to use them. Finally you cut down on employee guest relations on the platform because I can't see the employees eyes.

I don't know that, that is the only hazard Tony was referring to. If it were just a matter of making sure trains cleared the tunnel I can think of a few ways that may be easier then thermal goggles (camera? sensors?).

JuggaLotus said:

Or some bull crap like that.

Yeah, safety of guests is bull crap.

I was talking about the fire alarm problem. I sorta understand the ride op not being able to see part, but there could easily be a way to fix the fire alarm part of it.

There was.

Shut off the mist.

^^ what would be the "east way?" If it is screwing up sensors you'd have to replace the sensors--assuming you can find some it won't set off.

When smoke alarms in your place keep going off whenever you cook what do you do: buy different smoke detectors, install new venting equipment, or take the battrery out of your smoke detector?

Or, which of those is "easy?"

You move the stove, obviously. ;)