Cedar Point Announces New Water Ride for 2010 Season

First, that post hadn't been posted when I started working on mine.

Nevertheless, you may not have explicitly used the word "fanboy," but it was clearly implied with the "Cedar Point can do no wrong" statement.

Except for that whole part where I clearly stated I was not calling you a fanboy.

I've seen your arguments about pricing.

Edit: I speak my mind. In this instance it seems as the Cedar Point can do no wrong argument is in full effect. Its ok to think they can do one thing perfect, and another wrong. But the defense of this mishap is pretty ridiculous.

So, because they aren't doing exactly what you want, they are wrong?

Ok, back on topic.

I think since the boats have been off the track lately I think they are waiting for new boats to come in. Who knows how long that will take?

Yes Jason, thats exactly what I'm saying.

Look, the amount of hyperbole surrounding my statements is staggering. Let me be very clear here for everyone to understand.

Cedar Point needs to find a better way to update their consumers on the rides status. They do not need to include a detailed 5 page daily report, a simple daily or every other day status update will suffice.

They will not lose millions and millions because of this. They should not be sued or reprimanded in some way because they fail to appease the 5 yr olds of the world. They are not wrong, or creating a injustice on people.

They should however run an edited commercial without Shoot the Rapids, they should update their information sources regularly. They should look at their Public Relations a little bit better and come up with a consistent way to let people know the status of an attraction that a large number of people put money down on to come and visit.

Its pretty simple to understand. Nothing else should be taken from this argument other than the statements made. Things like "You said they are wrong!" should not be posted after this or "heres my life lesson." because thats not what I am discussing.

What mishap? Other than repeating themselves every other day, they're doing exactly what you ask.

It's clearly posted in multiple places on the website that the ride is not open. Apparently, you feel they lack some sort of update along the lines of:

"5/31 - Nope, not open"

"6/2 - Nope, not open"

"6/4 - Nope, not open"

Because a single "it's not open" message isn't enough?

And because no one else feels the need to be that redundant, it's obvious we're blindly following the almighty Cedar Point (without being fanboys).

Yes, clearly that's the best example of Cedar Point worship I've ever seen.

So, they should update the page to say "StR is closed and will open soon", every day?

But how will you know its been updated "every day" if the text stays the same? Because that's what you're asking them to do.

Sure they haven't updated the specific text since before Memorial Day (which was their last planned opening date) but that doesn't change the status of the ride.

And I'm sure as soon as they have a concrete opening date they will have it posted on the website and make posts to Facebook, Twitter and this site.

Until then, "Shoot the Rapids is currently closed and will open soon" will have to suffice.

The mishap that a ride that was supposed to open on May 15th is not open. Thats a mishap. Its not a "whoops, did it again." Kind of mistake.

Clearly I do feel they lack that update along those lines because thats exactly what I said it should be 3 posts ago!

I just went to the Facebook fan page and I noticed a lot of "Is Shoot The Rapids open yet?" also, "I heard it is, a friend told me he saw people riding it."

So clearly the defense of "Its posted on the website and Facebook and Twitter" is not working as well you might suggest.

The rhetoric about what I said to Dj is done. I made my point and I stand by it now matter how you spin it.

Juggalotus, read my posts without selectively reading the parts you want as Walt mentioned should be done. I stated a date could be added.

Maybe they haven't updated because the vast majority of people coming to the park didn't make the trip just to ride a new log flume.

You think they are getting lots of angry phone calls over this? Most people just say 'whatever' and go ride Maverick.

I don't think this ride is significant enough for it to warrant this much conversation about its delayed opening. I mean, when your CEO starts talking about the 2011 ride before the 2010 ride opens you have to wonder if they are even that thrilled about it.

Instead of discussing the foils and follies of it not opening on time...why not discuss whether or not it was even the right choice to begin with?

PrawoJazdy said:
Juggalotus, read my posts without selectively reading the parts you want as Walt mentioned should be done. I stated a date could be added.

And what does that add? So you have a date to know they updated it every day to say the exact same thing? That doesn't change nor help anything. The ride is closed and will open soon posted on May 31st has the same impact on June 3rd, regardless of whether it carries a date of June 3rd.

Chuck Wagon said:
You think they are getting lots of angry phone calls over this? Most people just say 'whatever' and go ride Maverick.

FANBOYS!!! ALL OF THEM!!!

;)

Dj, quit getting all up in arms about the fanboy thing. You have done it on here and even defended your right to do so.

Also, I'd like to point out that in the past Cedar Point made a page just for the status of Top Thrill Dragster. I don;t see why this is any different.

Hopefully when the ride opens it runs normally from there on out. Lets hope this isn't a yearly occurrence. It just wouldn't be good for the park to have another heavy maintenance ride.

I got to shoot a cannon saturday so at least some of the ride is usable ;)

TTD was different for a couple reasons.

1 - It had opened to the public. Media Day, first rides, paying customers. And then it broke.

2 - TTD was very much day to day. One day it would be working, and then it would go down for a day, then it would be up for 3, then down for a week. Many times during those stretches of multiple down days, I doubt they updated the status every day, they just left the "TTD is CLOSED today" notice up on the webpage, much like they've done with the StR notice.

3 - TTD was the new world record holder for tallest coaster.

StR meets none of those criteria.

Prawo, you seriously need to step away from the PC, take several deep breaths and relax. You're the one getting all "up in arms" here. The rest of us seem damn near comatose by comparison.

It's becoming more and more clear that your kids' reaction is a learned behavior. ;)

I have to agree that, after talking with a buddy of mine, there is a pretty big difference with StR. People were running out the door, pretty much literally, once hearing about or seeing TTD commercials. My buddy was like "the new water ride is open, I just saw a commercial for it", I was like "No it's not, not yet" to which he replied, "oh..." like he couldn't care less.

Average people just aren't that interested, but that doesn't mean it's not hurting Intamin and Cedar Point (if this thing is a maintenance problem in the long run).

1. Shoot The Rapids has been running, just not for customers. Its also being advertised via commercial with no "Coming soon" just "new for 2010"

2. The Shoot the Rapids notice does not say "closed today" It says "will not open for memorial day weekend" Very unlike the Top Thrill Dragster page.

3. I don't think height or speed matters at all. Both have had extensive marketing.

Please, Dj. I didn't quote posts line for line or go on a tangent against something that I've gone on a tangent with a pro-argument about before. Also, instead of selectively reading you'll notice they are not my kids and don't say a thing about their character again, you don't know them at all and that is borderline harassment.

Harassment? It was a joke, man. Lighten up.

1 - exactly, it hasn't been open. I'm not sure what they can do to get an updated commercial out to tv stations. Maybe they've got them on the way and they haven't made it through the pipeline yet? That wouldn't really make it the park's fault.

2 - And it hasn't been updated to say "StR is open" ergo, it is still closed.

3 - It very much matters. The hype for TTD was much more than what has been coming for StR or do you forget the huge wave of enthusiass anticipointment last fall? TTD being the new height and speed king was drawing people from over seas to come ride it and only it. StR won't even draw people from the next county who come to ride it and only it. You won't see people sitting in StR's station all day if the ride breaks down once it is open.

The 2 situations are very different and hence, aren't being treated the same by the park.