Cable shavings hit 4 riders

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Please, sombody...just put a fork in me. I'm done.

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pip7441622 said:
I don't know much...well anything...about the design of this ride, but it seems to me that this cable is something that probably should be replaced a couple of times durring the busy season, but they were just trying to stretch it out and make it last for cost cutting reasons. Was this cable something that got the coaster launched?

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Most of what you said is insane. Read this [ http://www.pointbuzz.com/ttdtech.htm ] for a technical introduction to Dragster.

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Pete said:
This really isn't that big of a deal.

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How is it not that big a deal? It's inconvenient and a bummer when you can't ride. When it's spraying metal at riders, that's a problem. It's not like the ride will stop using a cable and stop going 120 mph.

I try to be a good fan boy, but Dragster has been nothing but trouble since the start.

i would still ride it. you can die ever day you put a foot in a car people still do that and not care. so why live with out taking a risk. yea it sucks .but it still a good ride. but i cant really talk becuse i have ownle been on it one time

ownie huh?

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thepoint4life23 said:
i would still ride it. you can die ever day you put a foot in a car people still do that and not care. so why live with out taking a risk. yea it sucks .but it still a good ride. but i cant really talk becuse i have ownle been on it one time

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thepoint4life23 said:
I hate the news. it dose us know good. so good but most of it bad. I mean it sucks they got hirt. i write a paper on this. well about roller coaster being unsafe. i mean people die from orthe stuff all thie time and more oftin. but some one gets a cut on a ride. so the news make it as bad as they can make it, so we can scare people. do you think they can do some thing so they dont have to us a cable. *** Edited 7/13/2004 9:04:58 PM UTC by thepoint4life23***

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I'm sorry...I really am! But, every time I read one of your posts, my IQ drops a point! Will you PLEASE read what you type before you post?

sorrry man im trying may best

I'm sure that you are...just don't be in such a hurry. When you type a response, take your time and really read it before you post. Make sure that it'll be easy for everyone to read. =)

Anyways....

They had a little piece on the news about the issue. CP says it wasn't a big deal. People were treated and released. The people that were pegged with the shavings say that they were treated rudely when they requested a tetanus shot and asked CP to pay for the treatment. I'd think that CP would bend over backwards to do that for them. After all, one of the guys had a wire sticking through his ear. OUCH! *** Edited 7/13/2004 9:28:33 PM UTC by Scott***

I will try harder.

never mide. i love cedar point and i want to put my word in some things but no one cars. so i will just stop try *** Edited 7/13/2004 9:37:38 PM UTC by thepoint4life23***

I don't think this has anything to do with the ride being too technologically advanced, I mean we put people on the moon nearly 40 years ago. I think its just a matter of CP and Intamin being willing to really put the time and money they into trying to make Dragster right.

If they want to make TTD a completely safe and reliable ride, I think they're going to have to throw cost out the window for a little while and just do whatever they have to to overcome the design flaws in the ride.

Specifically with the cable, I'd imagine somewhere on planet earth there's a strong/durable enough cable to handle the job, but it again goes back to dishing out the extra cash.

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thepoint4life23 said:
I will try harder.

never mide. i love cedar point and i want to put my word in one some things but no one cars so i will just stop try

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It's not that we don't care. After reading your posts, it is difficult to understand what we should care about.

The Bat was a lemon, as was Drachen Fire. Dragster is not close to either of those rides.

Yet.

Perhaps this "lemon" will one day turn out lemonade.

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Jeff said:

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Pete said:
This really isn't that big of a deal.

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How is it not that big a deal? It's inconvenient and a bummer when you can't ride. When it's spraying metal at riders, that's a problem. It's not like the ride will stop using a cable and stop going 120 mph.

I try to be a good fan boy, but Dragster has been nothing but trouble since the start.

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I'm sure that the ride will be fixed. The problem of the metal being able to get into the path of the riders will be fixed. I believe that the metal must of came from the return cable since that is the only cable traveling the opposite direction of the train. When the return cable makes the turn down into the engine room it creates an angle with the track. Since this cable is traveling the opposite direction of the two pulling cables if it was frayed the angle change would cause loose pieces to be propelled upward towards the riders. These pieces of loose metal would continue on the path or imaginary line the cable makes with the engine room which may lead to them striking riders if these pieces of metal make it through the track structure. Assuming this is what happened a simple shroud placed above the return cable near the turn down could easily fix this simple problem. Of course this is just my thought on the situation and they mean nothing in the entire scheme of things.

Just saw a piece here in Michigan on WDIV Detroit, Channel 4. They said that in addition to the people who were pegged by the metal shavings, that some were burned by an "oily substance."

Thanks man i just want once for some one to know that i said something good. and tell me that i did say some thing now odd or dume *** Edited 7/13/2004 9:49:20 PM UTC by thepoint4life23***

I think thepoint4life23 is a fraud. NOBODY spells that bad, unless it's on purpose. That, and check out his/her posts. Sometimes it says he/she joined in 2000 (and had made zero posts). About the time I noticed that, it starts to say he/she joined today and his last post was number 2. HMMMM....Is a mod messing with us?

MrScott

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thepoint4life23 said:
and tell me that i did say some thing now odd or dume *** Edited 7/13/2004 9:49:20 PM UTC by thepoint4life23***

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There is nothing dume about your posts at all.

I PRAY that this is a light-hearted joke, and not reality.

I just finished watching news stories from both Ch. 5 and Ch. 8 in Cleveland.

The claim was made by the riders that Cedar Point let them set for "15 or 20 minutes" before allowing them out of the train. Ch. 8 reports that park officials said that amount of time was actually 6 minutes. Apparently, when the ride shut down, the restraints had to be opened manually. Perhaps it seemed like 20 minutes to those riders, but 6 minutes in that situation is not unreasonable.

Another point the 4 riders made was that they felt like they were 'blown off' by the park. They were given "front of the line" passes for Dragster. On television, the injuries looked to be minor - as had been reported. Ch. 5 reported that the riders were treated at the park's first aid station and offered the option to be transported to the hospital. According to that Ch. 5 report, the riders refused and went back into the park. Now, on the surface, front of the line passes on a ride you were just injured on seems in poor taste ... but if the riders went on their way and only received a few abrasions, it wouldn't be unreasonable for someone to think this really just was an "inconvenience."

While injuries are always a big deal, I just get the impression that those riders are making a bigger deal out of it than it really is. I don't know, maybe I'm wrong. I'm only going off of the Ch. 5 and Ch. 8 reports. Both stations were live at the park.

This is not the first time someone has been injured at Cedar Point. And if it goes to court, it certainly wouldn't be the first time for that either. There's a case that was just filed two weeks ago where a woman claims she broke her arm and dislocated her shoulder on Matterhorn (in 2002). There was no news coverage about that injury (which, if true, would be more serious). I'm not saying there actually is an injury or, if there is, that the park is to blame. I'm just using it as an example.

I seem to think these kids would not be holding a news conference if this wasn't the world's tallest and fastest coaster that had already been in the news for its maintenance woes. But that's just my impression. Like I said, I could be way off.

I shudder to think how Ch. 19 ACTION NEWS is handling this story. :)

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Im no Fraud. Let me say this im 17 and i have any L.D. if you dont know that is well then ask me. one more thing i have been threw more then most of you will ever have 2 and im 17. and i bet i know all most as much as ever one on this sit. but if i dont know this stuff i want to fide out and know more and more.

ps if you want to know why i have been threw more then most of you let me know

im not try to be mean but people dont need to stop makeing fuuny of me *** Edited 7/13/2004 11:14:48 PM UTC by thepoint4life23***

But back to the post. is there any thing they can us that is strong then the cable

I hope everyone is ok. You have to love the NEWS on how they always blow stuff out of proportion. But, "Stuff" happens. Whatever happened to Ride at your own risk? Soon, we will all have to be signing waivers before we even step foot in the park.

I'll be right back in line when it opens up, Hopefully by the time i'm there in 4 weeks.