What do you think about souvenir cups?

Scottyf

Thursday, March 26, 2015 8:27 PM

This is like an early April Fools thing, right?

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noggin

Thursday, March 26, 2015 8:31 PM
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Josh Young at Theme Park University chimes in. He makes a convincing argument, for me.


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CoasterKyle1121

Thursday, March 26, 2015 8:46 PM
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Jeff

Friday, March 27, 2015 3:55 AM
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Universal was doing a test, and it was a pretty stupid test at that. My wallet isn't metal, how do you know if I have that on me with a magnetometer?

The accident on the former Dueling Dragons was a freak accident, totally unlikely. The ride ran dueling for more than a decade without issue, and the decision to stagger dispatches was reactionary. The industry as a whole tends to go way beyond logical to paranoid. I mean, you can bring a backpack on Rockin' Rollercoaster and Tower of Terror at DHS. You can ride Big Thunder Mountain Railroad with a selfie stick in your hand as you dispatch. Who is right, and why?


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samosuband

Friday, March 27, 2015 4:47 PM

And with the Dueling Dragons incident, was it ever confirmed that the object came from the other train? Or could it have come from the same train the injured rider was on?


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Jeff

Friday, March 27, 2015 6:25 PM
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I don't think there is any way in terms of physics that it could have been the same train. Remember, things on the same train are moving at the same speed as the train.


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Saloon Junkie

Sunday, March 29, 2015 7:35 PM

I bring my own water bottles in the park and refill them at the water fountains. I buy beer and pop outside the park and put it in my room at Hotel Breakers. It saves a lot of money not buying beverages from inside the park.

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Stacys

Monday, March 30, 2015 7:13 PM

This is what I do on most of my visits....drink a ton of water -esp when i pack a Mio water flavor-ing? with me.

FYI....I always refill at the fountain just outside of the CP Museum...COLDEST FOUNTAIN on Point!

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RCMAC

Monday, March 30, 2015 8:49 PM

That's Snake River Falls water.

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jscll

Monday, March 30, 2015 11:46 PM

For the record, putting solar panels over a parking lot is not a crazy idea. The Philadelphia Eagles already do it.

If it is safe enough for a sports complex with people tailgating for hours underneath, it is safe enough for an amusement park.

Back to something related to this thread. With Cedar Fair's effort to provide higher quality food products to us, is there a possibility they will start offering soda made with cane sugar within a couple of years?

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Jeff

Tuesday, March 31, 2015 2:25 PM
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Yeah, sports venues tend to be urban, the parking is used year-round, and there is almost always a public subsidy involved. It's not a great comparison.


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NWLB

Tuesday, March 31, 2015 4:42 PM

The cost and amount of time to realize a ROI on solar would be longer than I expect it is worth to Cedar Fair/Point. The power could be sold back to the wider grid off-season, but still I'm not sold it is worthwhile. It would be money better spent to buy "green power" off the grid than to spend directly on generating it.

The only alternative would be if CF partnered with an outside party who fronts the money for the installation for a cut of the profit.


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jscll

Tuesday, March 31, 2015 6:26 PM

I should have been more specific, I only was trying to say that it is not a crazy idea from a safety standpoint (as Six Flags stated). From a logistical standpoint, I have to agree, I would prefer more rides. I must ask, how does the number of days the parking is used affect the profitability of such a project?

NWLB, your idea is similar to how these projects are done. An simplified example, a company (Eagles) wants to make a statement (or get a tax break) by building a solar farm. They make a deal with a power generation company (SolarBlue). The Eagles provide the location (parking lot and roof) and agree to buy their power from SolarBlue for twenty years at a fixed rate. SolarBlue pays for the installation, operation, and maintenance of the solar farm.

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Thabto

Tuesday, March 31, 2015 7:04 PM
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How did the solar panel discussion end up in a souvenir cup topic? I think it was posted in the wrong thread.


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Scottyf

Tuesday, March 31, 2015 7:08 PM

Jeff said:

Yeah, sports venues tend to be urban, the parking is used year-round, and there is almost always a public subsidy involved. It's not a great comparison.

What does being urban have to do with it, or the fact of parking being used year-round? The sun still shines in both places. Also, one would think that some kind of subsidy could be worked out with the city of Sandusky and/or FirstEnergy. If the cost of building and maintaining them outweighs the $ they will spend for the electricity over a length of time, then yeah, it could possibly happen.

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jscll

Tuesday, March 31, 2015 7:13 PM

Thabto said:

How did the solar panel discussion end up in a souvenir cup topic? I think it was posted in the wrong thread.

Sorry, my fault, I intended to post in Celebration Plaza Work.

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Jeff

Wednesday, April 1, 2015 12:20 AM
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Scottyf said:
What does being urban have to do with it, or the fact of parking being used year-round?

Presumably you've paid for parking in a downtown setting before, right? Aside from the fact that the amusement park parking is a revenue source that's mostly profit and doesn't need to recover any particular cost, it also goes unused eight months out of the year. So if you're talking about solar over parking, one generates revenue to cover the investment, the other is used one-third of the time and adds cost to something that was almost all profit.


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Scottyf

Wednesday, April 1, 2015 1:11 AM

Well, I did actually mean solar physically over parking, but not solar instead of parking. I was talking about similar to what jscll posted above about what the Eagles have, or this http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2015/01/28...ar-panels/

If they were to do such a thing, and it were cost-effective over time to do so, CP uses what energy it can from what's generated - likely all of it during the season, saving money off their current bill. If there is ever surplus (off-season), it sells it to the electric company.

Of course, as noted, this whole thing was misposted in this thread and is way, way off topic (heck, even was in the other thread).

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EatonJB

Monday, April 13, 2015 2:21 PM

I have gotten a cup every year, but I will never get one again. I was not able to put it in the bin at GK, and Magnum removed their bins, and I am sure a few other coasters are going to become like that, so these cups become an inconvenience. Water and my water pouch is all I am going to have all year. I get a Platinum pass each year, and have found it worthwhile to get a food pass, but drinks will not happen.

I am disappointed in the policies of CP because of the bin situations when it's clearly not a problem. if they are worried about spilling drinks, make a few little cup holders in the bins, and call it a daY!

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Chase

Monday, April 13, 2015 2:28 PM

At least Six Flags actually got something right with their stands to hold the cups while you're riding.

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