Were you taught the meaning of discrimination?
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*** This post was edited by speedzonetl04 3/21/2004 9:25:56 PM ***
arearew said:
No, racism was the wrong word. I don't know what exactly the word is, but the discourse is the same in that it's a form of discrimination.
The word you were looking for is serparatist:
according to um. dictionary.com, a separatist is
1 One who advocates disjunction of a group from a larger group or political unit
2 One who advocates cultural, ethnic, or racial separation.
I totally agree with what people have beein saying throughout this thread. Gay people can learn from straight people and vice-versa. By trying to separate yourself, you separating yourself from a learning experience. Last year I came to CP straight out of High School. Let me tell you it was one of the greatest learning experiences ever. I learned from Polish people, French people, Czech people, and Slovenian people and other nationalities. I also learned to be more tolerant of people in general . If used proplerly CP can be such a large classroom. Why would you basically try to "drop out" of that. And uh...I would fire you too.
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"If you want to start a LESBIAN/BI womens group, be my guest. The last thing 12 gay guys in a swimming pool want to see is a set of Breasts bobbing in the water. And that also includes those from a proverbial "F" hag."
Ah yes, you've shown your true colors now. I think that ends this particular discussion. May you find solace in an existence less sheltered in the future...
Both "sides" have some valid points, I suppose, yet, I think everyone on this thread has missed a *very* important observation.
Cedar Point is a place where thousands of college-age students come from all over the country and world to work each summer. This is an amazing opportunity to meet people -- and learn from -- people who are the same (and different) from you. Spending time with these people outside of work is one of the ways great memories are made at the Point that will last a lifetime. It is therefore highly important to *get out there and meet people* -- otherwise, this awesome opportunity will pass you by.
Personally, I don't see any problem with forming a "club" or "social group" for people who share the same interests or lifestyles. It doesn't seem like the idea proposed here on GTTP was meant to be something official that would actually be sponsored by the Point; instead, it seems like it was just someone's way of starting to make new friends and forming a group of them for some fun social activity this summer.
I don't understand why people suddenly flare up about "discrimination" and "exclusiveness" when a group of this type is created. Just because an exclusive group exists doesn't mean you can't be friends with people in that group or enjoy social activities with them. For example, do any of you have a friend in a fraternity or sorority that you don't belong to? There's one example of a highly exclusive type of group -- but they don't limit who their members can be friends with outside of the group. A group created for homosexuals -- or anyone else at Cedar Point, for that matter -- is just a way for people with the same set of interests to more easily find one another. It doesn't mean that the members won't be able to make friends with anyone else at the Point. A conclusion like that is just silly.
I applaud the efforts that have been made to make some awesome friends at the Point this summer. It's shameful that the rest of you feel the need to put down this type of idea. If anything, you should be encouraging it -- and in the process, helping past and new employees along on their way to an amazing summer.
If you don't like it, just ignore it. Wow, people.
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Then in no way will it be socially quesitonable when I start my straight/white person club, right?
"because an exclusive group exists doesn't mean you can't be friends with people in that group or enjoy social activities with them"
That was never argued in this discussion and is obvious.
"A group created for homosexuals -- or anyone else at Cedar Point, for that matter -- is just a way for people with the same set of interests to more easily find one another."
Those outlets already exist, and they are not exclusive. There is a difference.
"It's shameful that the rest of you feel the need to put down this type of idea"
I am not ashamed for voicing out against the presentation of this idea...
"If you don't like it, just ignore it. Wow, people."
Obviously, the same could also be said to you. Discussion forums are not meant to be centers of ignorance though, yes?
Alright I'm done, I honestly respect everyone's opinions and didn't mean to invoke a flamewar, I just think this sort of thing can be dangerous and should at least be regarded as being potentially such. Keep it real real.
*** This post was edited by arearew 3/21/2004 10:49:34 PM ***
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Titanboim: Actually youre very stupid, you will spend the summer making 6 dollars an hour working long hours, I will be making $27 an hour, working in a far more important job, working HALF as hard as you and far less hours.
Oh darn it looks like no club.
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'03 Speed Freaks (Hats n Such)
TTD 72 rides (2 nonpaid rollbacks, 5 paid rollbacks)
TaeKwon-Do First Degree Black Belt. (1st dan)
*** This post was edited by speedzonetl04 3/21/2004 11:56:12 PM ***
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'03 Speed Freaks (Hats n Such)
TTD 72 rides (2 nonpaid rollbacks, 5 paid rollbacks)
TaeKwon-Do First Degree Black Belt. (1st dan)
just kidding - grow up
heres an idea - if you just want to meet people, go to any break area or housing building and talk to people. there are people of every type at cp, and if of the thousands of possibilities no one has any similar interests you are a big weirdo (i mean even a certain roomate of red garter rob had the foreign girls, i think they liked the feet).
if you want to meet people and enjoy the occasional beverage, go to Louie's
if you are just bored, stop by and see me, im usually up for anything
if you happen to be a gay male and desire nothing but sex, go to jayson's room
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