WWL will leave void a coaster can't fill.

Picture of tree being referenced

My favorite area of the park is Frontier Town simply because of all the trees. That main midway area up in front is very uninviting because it lacks the shade, breeze, and shelter that trees provide. I really dislike going up there at all.

Cedar Point: We CARE about the trees <3

:-)

I agree about that tree though, every 5-10 years they have to cut the hole bigger to accomodate a growing tree, too. I really think CP still has a decent amount of trees, just look at an aerial photo.

I will admit there's less than there used to be, but that's what happens with growth.

-josh

...but that's what happens with growth.

See, thats part of the problem here. If people in mgt at CP carry similar opinions, then eventually CP will be left with very minimal vegetation. Sure, growth does require the inevitable destruction of some trees. But, when 15 trees are sacrificed for a ride, and only 2 or 3 replanted to make up for it, eventually you're left with NO trees. Do the math.

As for the "growth" aspect. I'm fairly sure that if there were very little or no trees in CP it would have an effect on attendance. Its the kind of thing the GP notices without really noticing. Their attitude might be: "Wow, Cedar Point just doesn't feel as inviting as it used to, or as compared to (insert park name here)." They may not be able to put their finger on the reason, but it likely has a negative effect.

I can see your point, and I agree to an extent, but as much as I'd like to see a few trees on the main midway, the look of CP is kind of what makes it CP, if you can understand what I mean by that.

Cedar fair overall has a certain Entrance/Main Midway look that kind of rolls a bunch of things into one. I like it, but I agree that a sense of 'adventure' if you will is brought on by entering into somewhere that is like frontier trail/town.

If I believed in feng shui (sp?) then I would say it has something to do with that.

-Josh

You have a point regarding the unique look of CP. I just have very fond memories of the CP of the mid-80's when there were more trees. (And yes, elders, I know I'm a virtual youngin' in your eyes and there were even more trees in your day)

I don't mind progress, nor the cutting of a few trees here and there. I just don't want CP to have a new "Most Concrete on the Planet" record in 10 or 15 years.

Gotta agree with djDaemon, I wish there was someway to build around things, such as trees and other longstanding obstacles. It was to be hard to, but its not impossible; just look at the Raven at Holiday World. In my opinion, can't say that cp has done its absolute best to build around trees in the past.

Also have to agree with MHW about how nice the setting in Frontiertown is with the nice shade and breeze. Its like the only area that seems untouched through years of changes at the point.

If you all would have preferred to have a Cedar Point that kept every tree in tact then you wouldn't have an amusement park. Besides the beach area it was heavily wooded until it started to be developed.

While I will agree that CP has changed majorly over the last 14 years I've lived in Ohio, I do have to say that it COULD be a lot worse.

As much as most people don't like concrete, I'm just the opposite. I love it. I think it looks great, has clean lines, and doesn't turn that nasty shade of gray that blacktop does (and then when they seal it again it just looks HIDEOUS) - not to mention the edges where it meets grass are a hell of a lot cleaner. It does become a pretty blinding shade of white on a hot summer day, though.

I loved CP back in the day, and I still love it now. I just wish there was a walkway between MF/Mantis/ID and the TTD midway - it would be THAT much easier to not have to walk around by coasters to get over that way, but I'm not complaining - jus' sayin' is all.

-josh

When it comes down to it at the end of the day, it's new attractions that attract guests, not trees. Please do not get me wrong, I really love the trees and agree that they shouldn't get rid of them unless they really need to. As the park develops they need to move into new areas and revise old areas. Give it time and the new trees they plant will grow eventually.

I am glad that some trees are removed such as ones near TTD as it was built. I would not want to have a "FABIO" incident happen all the time as the trees attract birds. Not and 120mph. no thanks.
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I agree with Djdaemon up above. Cedar Point was named Cedar Point way back when because of the trees that populated Cedar Point. Back in the 1800s though, 95% of the park was mostly trees. They only had a bathhouse then. Now if you look at Cedar Point, We have 16 RollerCoasters and 66 rides and attractions. I like How Djdaemon pointed that out that we should maybe knock down a few trees and build a coaster for example around the rest of the trees. Thats kinda the method they're doing right now for Skyhawk and I hope they do the same with whatever they decide to build in 2007.

coasterguy - The odds of a bird sticking near a coaster that screams along at 120mph are pretty slim. Even so, should we just destroy all the trees, plants and grass so that we won't have to deal with those "pesky" animals anymore. I betcha they were there first.

Vince - You proved my point, while trying to disprove my point. You say that guests don't care about the trees, but you (a guest) care about the trees. Do you see my point?

Its not like families sit at home and say "hmm, I really want to see those nice trees at Cedar Point. We should go this summer." But, it does (on some level) impact their experience at the park, and their desire to return.

You mean you don't remember when a bird splattered on the front of the TTD train?

I'm not kidding, either. there were gut marks on it for weeks.

-josh

And a bird hit a girl in the face on MF. S--- happens. Don't like it? Stay indoors.

Its not like hitting birds is a common occurence.

I think that Cedar Points general use of trees, shrubs, flowers, etc. has been getting worse every year. For a stark contrast to Cedar Point, take a trip to Kennywood. They actually have sections of the park where you can sit on a bench under a large tree and relax for a few minutes! I don’t think it is too much to ask that Cedar Point create areas where you can take a break from the rides and have some ice cream in nice surroundings. Instead we have miles of concrete with very little shade.

I know some of are thinking that there is no ROI on trees and landscaping. But there is, because you want to create a fun environment for the whole family. If people start to perceive CP as an unpleasant place to visit, they will stop going no matter how many $25 million rides are installed.

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djDaemon said:
And a bird hit a girl in the face on MF. S--- happens. Don't like it? Stay indoors.

Its not like hitting birds is a common occurence.

I never said I had a problem with it - I was just saying that it happened before. Did it stop me from riding it? Nope. I laughed my ass off. Then I had to laugh some more when the guts were still there a few days later.

-Josh

Wasn't that during the photo shoot?

If it was, I'd think pictures would have surfaced on the 'net by now.

MrScott

I could be mistaken, but I think it was. There were employees in the train, I know this much. Some of them weren't able to keep their lunch down when they saw/got hit with bird chunks. :)

-Josh