Virus Impact on CP

DeWine just announces the order that restricts gatherings to only ten people or less will remain in effect indefinitely for now. Pretty sure that axes Cedar Point opening anytime soon.

I don't think that is surprising, nor do I think it changes a realistic timeline many of us have guessed on here.

Staff can begin to report to work to resume prepping the park a week from today on May 4. If the month of May goes well for Ohio, I think a late June/July 4th opening for Cedar Point (and Kings Island) is realistic.

mgou58 said:

DeWine just announces the order that restricts gatherings to only ten people or less will remain in effect indefinitely for now. Pretty sure that axes Cedar Point opening anytime soon.

But my rights!!! -_- *running for the door*

Cartwright said:

If the month of May goes well for Ohio, I think a late June/July 4th opening for Cedar Point (and Kings Island) is realistic.

This is of course the State has time to get everything in the state that wants an inspection, inspected. The park can be 100% ready all it wants, but rides will not operate and games will not be played until signed off. It will be a big undertaking to get done in a month or so what normally is done in 4.

Maybe CP can open just for Ticket of a Lifetime winners. There should only be about 10 of them.

As long as there is early entry for them. Don't want anyone to be upset.

One thing I picked up on from the reaction to DeWine's presser is that there are A LOT of people who think a trip to the hair salon is more important than going to the dentist.

MaverickLaunch said:

If people were intelligent, if reporting and the media at large were fair and accurate, then misinformation would not matter (I'm not saying that this link contains misinformation, I've not yet listened).

OMG LIKE AND SHARE!!!!1!!!

Seriously dude, critical thinking. That's all I'm after. You keep living in this world where all information is worthy of your attention, and it's not. And then when you're called out on it, you don't have any defense for it. Over and over and over you have tried to discredit sources of information with zero evidence that it's incorrect.

All information is not created equal. My opinion doesn't mean anything... I try to stick to sharing things that are evidence based.

99er said:

As long as there is early entry for them. Don't want anyone to be upset.

I wonder how our former resident "need to be made whole" character is holding up.

I'd be willing to bet that he'll be back in disguise lol

Uncle Steve said:

I should have gotten up this morning and gone to church.
I should have gone out to lunch afterward.
I should have stopped by the mall on the way home so the wife could shop.

So you don't want just those things for yourself, but you want to force others to offer mass, work at the restaurants, and work at the malls. Even if they don't feel safe or are an at risk demographic. So other people should put themselves in harm's way so you can have your perfect Sunday?

Jeff said:
All information is not created equal. My opinion doesn't mean anything... I try to stick to sharing things that are evidence based.

Except nearly every statement you make implies you have complete knowledge and data and authority to render every conflicting opinion invalid.

You say things like there is no leadership at the federal level to handle the virus, which is false. What you could have said, and which would have been worded to give credibility to your argument, is that you don’t think or feel that the federal government is providing adequate or proper leadership. You do see the difference, right? One is an opinion masquerading as fact. The other is a factual statement. You might not like the leadership, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t any.

I’ve been on this forum a long time, and have read most of your blog too. I don’t mean this as a personal attack. You are a skilled writer and someone who puts thought into what you say. But You repeatedly, over and over, frame opinions as fact. And they aren’t . It’s opinions, feelings, etc. Nothing wrong with opinions, but presenting them as facts isn’t right. Especially when you repeatedly, falsely use “science” as a scapegoat, as If you were the spokesperson for science.

Science is just not a word. The scientific method consists of many steps at the end of which, an evidence based outcome can be documented. The problem with you invoking “science” in just about every conversation is that you are picking and choosing where in the process you want to pull your information.

Fact not opinion: very very bad

Cargo, super mature response. Like, the most mature. Tremendous in fact. Nobody has seen anything like it but you’ve been more mature than anybody thought possible.By far.

Only way they open is as an inclusive resort. Don't see the new parking gates being used at all, since parking doesn't have to be payed. It wouldn't block anyone from attending. You would just have to stay at one of their properties. And I'm sure there would be temperature checks. The park would be slow enough to ensure that cues weren't full. It could be a loophole for them if they open up restaurants and hotels before amusement parks.

I think that things are changing more rapidly than we think. In the same way it got bad very quickly early on. I could totally be wrong, this is just a guess, but I’d wager the park is open june 1 with some obvious restrictions. And also a gut feel... I think that the warm weather and uv really slows this thing down. That’s my hope anyway.

vwhoward said:

So you don't want just those things for yourself, but you want to force others to offer mass, work at the restaurants, and work at the malls. Even if they don't feel safe or are an at risk demographic. So other people should put themselves in harm's way so you can have your perfect Sunday?

OMG, I was being sarcastic.

Just as I am 100% against keeping anyone in, I am 100% against forcing anyone out. Stay in as long as you like.

What makes you think that the people who were working in restaurants and malls don't want or need to get back to it?
You should realize that not everyone keeps 3 months of cash and food on hand. Millions are suffering and would gladly go back to work if work were an option.

DeWine's announcement yesterday was a huge relief to many people. And he's not forcing anyone out.

MaverickLaunch said:
Except nearly every statement you make implies you have complete knowledge and data and authority to render every conflicting opinion invalid.

Oh, it's the old reverse reading comprehension scapegoat!

Me: Facts! Data!
You: You imply authority and are therefore wrong!

Once the theory of "alternative facts" was launched things spiraled out of control. We are facing life and death implications of partisanship over citizenship.

Science! Data! Facts! Give them all to me. New information is coming in daily, at rapid rates. Let's just hope for all of our sakes that our political leaders adjust our response accordingly to align with new data as it comes in.

It's great to have double blind peer review comparisons and defenses. But those take time. Whether we like it or not, decisions are going to have to be made without as much thorough vetting of the data as would be ideal in a perfect world where we have more time to respond.

I'm not advocating rushing to conclusions or hastily responding because of 1 'study' or an extremely limited data set, but if we think our response should be based on the full academic 'show me the peer reviewed science' OODA loop, I just don't see that happening. We don't have the luxury of that much time in this case.