Update: August 29

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That's quite the detective work. I personally would love a 250 ft hill, however I am more excited about the other elements in the ride. I hope you're right though. Is it next Thursday yet.

The degree of incline for the lift hill would be variable and therefore, the assumption that every foot of track would equate to a foot of elevation change would not necessarily hold true.

Thanks for keeping us long distance viewers tuned in with all the updates.

WOW Dorney the detective, good work


Ride-on

DPfan - Great detective work. And, I'm not trying to be mean when I say this, but we've discussed that all in detail already. I realize we've discussed it in about 30 different threads, but its been brought up before.

I'm still not sold on the track numbering though. Why some track pieces have an "S" prefix, some have an "L" prefix and others are just a number doesn't make sense to me yet. I'm sure they correspond with different sections on the layout drawings, but without seeing those, I'm not sure what they mean.

EDIT:

Ok, I'm questioning the LIM theory now. If you look at the pic we've all seen from WT, the LIMs are mounted on the outside. Imagine there holes where the screws are put into the "plate". http://pointbuzz.com/Gallery.aspx?i=1277

Now, look at the P07 "LIM" mounting plate. http://www.pointpixels.com/4images/details.php?image_id=8076 The holes are on the inside. Granted, it could be a different type of LIM mounting bracket, but still, they're not the same. They're similar, but not the same. Ideas?? *** Edited 8/30/2006 5:26:28 PM UTC by halltd***

priemer, I think that you bring up a good point, and I would like to see a somewhat tunnel underneath the station.
*** Edited 8/30/2006 5:27:54 PM UTC by Rippin***


Ride-on

Does anyone know if the track being installed right now is going in front of or behind (from the webcam perspective) the newly constructed building?

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Behind.


Brandon

Rippin, thanks for noticing. That is exactly what I've pictured since the supposed promo video was leaked. The part where the prospector is digging deep for the "trains of bronze, silver and gold" and "all the sudden the trains spring to life!" I always saw some sort of enclosure or tunnel housing a launch, with some *minor* theming, maybe a liquid sky or starburst lighting effect? I dunno... we'll see.


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halltd: I know that the LIM/LSM hill has been brought up before (by myself the first time, then no one listened and said it in around 30 threads), but I was moreso talking about the length of the hill which could equate to more height, all depending on the angle of the hill.

Also, I'd compare the brackets for the LIM/LSMs with California Screamin' at Disney's California Adventure moreso, seeing as it also uses tri-rail track and is a sitdown instead of invert. As seen in this picture, http://www.rcdb.com/ig731.htm?picture=6, the LIM/LSMs are mounted above the track so that they can have contact with the train which has mechanisms or magnets (don't remember off the top of my head specifics) that interact with the pieces on the track causing the train to accelerate quickly.

Another thing is that with the LIM/LSM launch hills, the mounts continue up the hill as seen with my previous post where there are holes for mountings on every piece of the hill. This can also be seen on California Screamin' (http://www.rcdb.com/ig731.htm?picture=2) in one of the few pictures that show some of inside the launch tunnel. Yes, I can see that California Screamin' uses 2 rail track for its launch hill, but the same basic design can be brought over to 3 rail track as seen with Project '07.


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Call me crazy, but I think the LIM/LSM hill idea was first brought up before July 27th of this year.

Regardless, good observations. However, I don't know how much stock can be put into deciphering the track labeling methodology. It could just as easily have to do with phases as it does with relative location.


Brandon

Why do I keep thinking that the loading station will be done on the LOWER level of this ride, assuming there will be two "levels?"

The way I picture it, the first half will be a decent size lift hill, and the first part of the ride will be large drops and overbanks, traveling towards and over at the Swan pond, traversing the site over the sidewinding track, and coming back to a launch or hill over the station and possibly through the first lift hill.

The second half will be what's been constructed to date, it will travel towards the swan pond, but take a right hand turn into the "sidewinding," have headchoppers through the first half supports, and end after the two zero-g inversions.

Hmmmm...

Also, I would guess the train would have to be going somewhere near 50 mph during the second half of the ride, so a speed boost would have to occur from somewhere.

All a guess, all IMO.

The lower level is definatly not the station. You can see the track has a slight inclination to it almost imediately after the turn and it appears will continue rising until it reaches the end of the straight section. Unless it will have an up-hill station.


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I agree that the lower level will not be the station, in my opinion a themed mid course launch area.


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Most stations are on an incline. Otherwise the cars wouldn't move when the brakes release (see Corkscrew and Magnum for good examples).


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^ Of course, those two don't use kicker wheels. I see your point, though.


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If the station were on the lower level, would the track above leave enough clearance for the station? I know the scale of the project is hard to get from the pictures, but would there be enough room?


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JuggaLotus said:
Most stations are on an incline. Otherwise the cars wouldn't move when the brakes release (see Corkscrew and Magnum for good examples).

Most stations are on a decline.....;)


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So it does seem like people are wanting a lift hill, as do I. It does seem although that this is gonna be a launch right into a hill possibly. I just cant wait till Sept. 7th. I am gonna be there. Seeing how I only work 5min. from there.


Ride-on

How did I miss the "leaked promo video?" Was that posted on here or something?

If you look at the LIM/LSM mounts on Calif. Screamin', they're basically the same as the ones on WT. They bolt onto the "flange" closest to the rails of the track, NOT down the center as shown on the Project 2007 pieces.

There was a leaked casting call and script segments supposedly from LA. Seemed to be legit, search "Possible Promotional Video" for info. This is where most of my theming ideas are coming from.


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