STR Still Opening This Weekend?

CPboy77 said:
Boy, I hope it is. I will be kind of pissed off if it is not even ready by this Saturday.

I think if they already have the height requirement it will be open this Saturday...

Since when does establishing a height requirement dictate a ride operating schedule?

Nope, not opening tomorrow. Ron Rude from the Red Cross, a friend of mine, just called me about 20 minutes ago. Red Cross event postponed to a date not yet determined.

Roz

This should have lawsuit written all over it. What a POS. What a crock of sh*t.

I'm sure there is something in the agreement somewhere about down time, and Intamins responsibilities. If there isn't, after Dragster, I would be even more disappointed.

What kind of lawsuit are you expecting to see filed? You think Intamin isn't footing the bill for any fixes that are required?

Not to mention not getting any delivery bonus' since they are missing deadlines left and right.

Doubtful there's a lawsuit. Most construction contracts include clauses that protect the buyer in case of lost revenue due to delays, in the form of a "discount"*. I'd be shocked if StR's contract is any different, and as I said, I'd love to know what "discount" CP is getting.

Presumably, a lawsuit would only happen if Intamin tried to fight what's in the contract. But I'm not lawyer...

*Road construction contracts often contain both bonus and penalty clauses. The contractor gets a bonus for being early, and gets penalized (often quite heavily) for being late.

Dj- and since there is untold millions in future business they'd be pissing away by doing such a thing, I see that as an unlikely scenario.

Last Saturday at 8pm we were watching about a half dozen conctruction workers welding and drilling holes and working on "guides" in the channel. Bill Spehn and others were on the site too. There were men working in the island section too. The PE caption pointed them out as new PE props. Anyway, to have all of those construction workers on the site at that time on a Saturday left an onminous impression. We talked that there must be more to the situation than just the boats needing to be retrofitted. Perhaps those "guides" were too small to allow the boats to travel through.

Whether it's a lawsuit, unpaid bonuses, discounts to CP, whatever, as long as it hits Intamins pocket books, hard. I hope they don't make one red dime off of the StR sale.

I'm not a fan of the huge line-up of maintenance whores we have at the park, and my crazy theories as to the problems they create. Having another one in the line-up with StR is really disappointing.

ClevelandKid - Or perhaps the retrofitting being done to the boats required other (unforeseen) retrofitting to be done to other ride components.

Kyle2154 said:
I hope they don't make one red dime off of the StR sale.

Oh, they'll still make money (and they should, since CP will still "make money" from the ride). I mean, it's not likely that Intamin is going to get a $500,000/day penalty.

I knew it. T & T would have been pumping up the opening all week if all was fine with the ride. This is the third time now Intamin has had major problems/delays with a new ride at CP.

Wow. Terrible.

djDaemon said:
Oh, they'll still make money (and they should, since CP will still "make money" from the ride). I mean, it's not likely that Intamin is going to get a $500,000/day penalty.

What are their margins on the rides they sell? Don't you think that CP would want to make sure the penalties/lost bonuses are enough to make Intamin care? I hope there is some drastic penalty for each downtime day during opening season.

Words to live on:

Never buy a car in the first year of the model.

Never plan a vacation around the opening of an amusement park ride.

Kyle2154 said:
What are their margins on the rides they sell?

No idea. Considering they get chosen so frequently, probably at least in-line with their competitors.

Don't you think that CP would want to make sure the penalties/lost bonuses are enough to make Intamin care?

You don't have to force Intamin to lose money on this in order to make them care. Money is still money.

I hope there is some drastic penalty for each downtime day during opening season.

Sure, but it's probably more in-line with the calculated damages CP incurs, rather than some crazy high number enthusiasts dream up out of irrational anger or emotion.

djDaemon said:
No idea.

If you don't know their margins than you have no idea how much having 30 guys a day out there for 15 extra days with all the equipment is really hurting them.

Sure, but it's probably more in-line with the calculated damages CP incurs, rather than some crazy high number enthusiasts dream up out of irrational anger or emotion.

As long as you're so sure it's immaterial. I would think staffing that many extra workers with all the equipment is increasing costs in a BIG hurry.

I never said I knew the specifics. Pure speculation. But I think it would be a stretch to assume (and emotion-based to hope) that Intamin would lose money on this project.

Wow, way to go CP!

*rolls eyes*

I think it's completely ridiculous they can't even let us know what is going on with the ride... Why the silence? What a crock.

Stupid winged keels. ;)

@DJ: Who knows the exact extra costs they have now incurred. But, lets guess. 30 (guys) x 12 (hours) x 14 (days) x $30 (average hourly rate) = $151,200. Lets assume that its 50% parts / 50% labor. $151,200 x 2 = $302,400.

At a 5% margin, Intamin would make $525,000 off StR. I would say it's not a stretch to assume (and hope) that this starts to hurt Intamin really, really bad.

I can't think of a rational reason why you'd hope a company that produces some of the most exciting amusement rides on the planet would go out of business. That's emotional, and as such, irrational.

As for me, I just hope they get the damn thing running sooner rather than later.