Smoking Policy

A few times I had seen people sneak out their cigarettes on the midways or in the queues. I couple times I had heard the ride ops to tell the person to put out the cigarette while in the queue lines. But out on the midway it is really hard for an employee to catch people smoking on the midways.rotor I agree to some of the things that you say but the park can afford to hire soany of security officers & installing surveillance cameras would be expensive plus they would need someone to monitor the cameras & to retrieve the video from those cameras. Yes there are a few bad apples in the park on any givendays. I am sorry to hear aabout your bad experience. You should went to the guest service to let them know about your day in the park. They can try to help you out.

The dumbest smoking incident I have ever seen was last year when someone lit a cigarette and proceeded to smoke it going up the lift hill. We got a lift stop and the crew was bursting out laughing when the officers talked to him... Oh did I forget to mention that this was on Mean Streak of all rides?

Just make the Smokers go back to their cars. Many go back to their cars and eat some foods and drinks.

I forgot to say. As a Gambler the Ohio Casinos are Smoke Free.

Last year I pointed out, to a non-bonded police officer, 3 or 4 people, sitting on a bench, smoking on the Frontier Trail. He said, "what do you want me to do about it? It's not my job." Now my question is, "who's job is it?" No wonder people smoke where ever they feel like it.

It is just blatant disrespect! As a smoker, I appreciate the improved smoking areas throughout the park, and I ONLY smoke in them. In this day and age, it's getting harder for us to find public places that allows smoking.

The Great American Ball Park doesn't allow smoking at all. Sounds sad, but that's one reason we don't go to ball games. They have people out looking for smokers, and they tell people they can't smoke.

Some people are just jerks. They feel "entitled" to smoke wherever they want. It's inconsiderate and rude.

I think the problem isn't smokers in particular so much as that we have a huge segment of society that believes the world revolves around them and the rest of us had better let them do whatever they want whenever they want.

A smoking ban is only as effective as the thread of repurcussions if caught. At Cedar Point, there is none. Thus, it's simply a non-smoking request. Any compliance with it is purely voluntary. Other venues have successfully implemented their smoking bans. I am absolutely certain that Cedar Point has no true interest in enforcing theirs, as they're worried it will lead to a drop in sales. And if that's the case, I'm fine with that. It's their park, and they can do what they like. But they cannot legally advertise that smoking is permitted only in designated areas, when they know full well this is not the reality. This is what I plan to challenge them on. And no, I'm not looking for money, simply an enforcement of their policy or the removal of it.

^ Exactly. We frequent the park on a very regular basis and have witnessed many instances when employees have nicely reminded guests smoking where they shouldn't about the park's smoking policy. The reactions have varied from from simply putting them out and then relighting once the employee walks away to absolute nastiness.
Not once,that we have seen, have even the nastiest of guests been ejected from the park for smoking or their subsequent actions ( throwing their lit cig at the staff on one occasion). I don't blame the staff for their reluctance to help enforce the rules if the park isn't going to stand behind them.

That is so true. There are some people that feel like "you are telling them what to do" and get mad. But rules are rules....follow them! These people are gonna ruin it for us smokers. I can see the possibility of a smoke free Cedar Point soon.

Your all a bunch of nazi's.let's set up camera's in someones hotel room and fine them $250. Kick them people out. I suppose since people smoked in them rooms for 50 plus years you can tell if someone smoked a cigerete or even worse the night before. Let alone be forced into being around the rest of the population. Welcome to America where the better part of the population tells the other part how to live only to be laughed at. I don't go to CP to tell others how to live and you don't get to either. We don't smoke because we go to CP, we go to CP because we want to. Live with it.

Sherri, that is your typical Cedar Point patron. And they know this. It's basically Ozzfest with roller coasters. I don't think you have to worry about a smoke free park anytime soon. In fact, I would actually encourage you to smoke anywhere you feel like. The more people who do, the more ridiculous the policy becomes and the easier it is to get rid of.

People seem to forget that we are a nation of majority rule and minority rights, unless that right affects the health, safety or wellbeing of others. In this case smoking outside of designated areas. That being said, the majority has ruled (and the park should agree) that the minority has the right to sit down and shut up--oh, and put out the damn cigarette!

Rotor said:
I suspect with 10% of the profits they made just today they could install a video security system along the lines of all the major rides.

Really? You've done the cost analysis on this?

...stored for upto 72 hours, so at any point CP security could receive a text, instantly go to the video feed, rewind to look for the incident, and confront the person with irrefutable video evidence of what they'd done.

Seriously? This seems like a reasonable use of resources to you? I'd much rather CPPD focus on non-trivial matters like, you know, security.

Most stadiums that take in far less profits have extensive video surveillance.

You think those stadiums' surveillance systems exist to catch smokers? That's adorable.

How much could it cost to employ 20 extra people?

Clearly, FAR more than you think. I suspect you've never been anywhere near an HR office. :)

Rotor said:
I am absolutely certain that Cedar Point has no true interest in enforcing theirs, as they're worried it will lead to a drop in sales.

So, where's the proof that led you to such certainty? Surely you're not using your anecdotal (and clearly biased) experiences, right?

...they cannot legally advertise that smoking is permitted only in designated areas, when they know full well this is not the reality. This is what I plan to challenge them on.

You really need to talk to a lawyer. Try not to be insulted when the lawyer starts laughing at you.

Employees DO enforce the policy, however there are times we can't enforce it constantly (if I see it I'll usually get em over to an area they can smoke, however if it's out of my way and I'm doing something like going on lunch, yeah don't expect me to take a few min out of my break lol)

Again, deal with it, if you can be very polite, I'm sure most people sound rude when they come out asking to put it out. Put on a fake telephone etiquitte voice & smile like you would in a phone interview, explain to them the deal, and also give them the nearest designated area because if it bothers you that much I'm sure you know where they can smoke.

Paying security, fines, ect. isn't going to solve any problem just to enforce the policy. The system does work, it's a bit impartial, however it does work, just move on...this is being blown out of proportion

redsfan said:
Your all a bunch of nazi's.

*You're.

Also, I don't think that comparison means what you think it means.

redsfan said:
Your all a bunch of nazi's.let's set up camera's in someones hotel room and fine them $250. Kick them people out. I suppose since people smoked in them rooms for 50 plus years you can tell if someone smoked a cigerete or even worse the night before.

Actually, you can easily tell if someone smoked a cigarette in a non-smoking hotel room the night before. As a non smoker, the most disgusting and disappointing thing would be to check into a hotel and have that lingering smoke smell in the room. No cameras necessary, housekeeping people would be able to tell if someone smoked when they go into the room to clean it.

I kind of like redsfan's idea about putting cameras in the rooms - think of the extra revenue the hotel could make by selling the sex tapes!

I actually e-mailed John Hildebrandt this winter about this very issue, and received a quick response. I have to say that there has been improvement over last season with regards to smoking outside of the designated areas, but there is still room for improvement. It is a very difficult thing to enforce because the park can't have eyes everywhere. I would agree that the lack of consequences is the biggest problem.

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TwistedWicker77 said:
9 times out 10 got a rude response from some punk (no matter what age),

I can tell, just from this response, that you weren't a nice as you think. When you approach a situation like that, and your true feelings are "some punk" - it shows.

It's not about what you say to them, rather the vibe you give off and the manner in which you say it.

I can guarantee that if you approached the situation in an authoritative, yet non-threatening manner, it would have been different.

You can tell from my reply on a message board how nice or rude I was to a guest? Because I called them "punks" after I sensed their poor character, doesn't mean I wasn't nice to them prior to their response/actions. Since we're judging each other through the internet, the lack of social interaction you receive in the real world is quite low, because your ignorance is showing in terms of how oblivious you are when it comes to how some (not all) teens to 40-some year old adults act when they're with their friends. It isn't a problem for Sherri, Paisley, B&K and Rotor to see it because they actually know how guests can be. (Even though I don't agree with Rotor's idea of allowing people to smoke wherever they please).

Like I said before, I was a smoker at one point too, so there was no reason for me to be rude to a guest about being in a designated area or not. I would be on the defense if somebody came at me rude too. You're not the only one my man. I always put myself in somebody else's shoes when I'm talking one on one with them

Anyway, on a side note, when we looked in the park map yesterday, they had a tri-fold with show times, and another little paper, highlighting where the smoking areas throughout the park are.